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#6220 of 8898 Re: looking For SE [igozoomzoom]
Jun 03, 2009 (6:12 am)
Ah, but then the difference between the SE and the Limited comes into play; of the things mentioned, the rear spoiler doesn't matter at all to me. Neither does the Sport-tuned Suspension. The Tilt&Telescopic steering is standard on the limited, as are the fog lamps (and the 6CD in dash), and the tires and wheels... but the limited offers a lot of other nice features (heated seats, sunroof, leather seating, etc.) for not much more... the sunroof, all by it's self, is almost the entire price differential between the SE and the Limited. BTW, you left out the Solar Control glass, which is standard on SE, but only on the V6 GLS.
So the SE is kind of stuck in the middle; the important SE features (*to me, and apparantly to many others*) were the Steering wheel audio controls, trip computer, powerdrivers seat and lumbar support. The Automatic headlights are "eh" since I can do that easily enough, and the times when I have the autoheadlights on, they don't seem to turn on quickly enough (oh, and in my state, VA, they should also turn on if the window wipers are turned on automatically... state law, headlights on if window wipers are on, so I can't just "fire and forget" with them anyway).
Of the others, only the leather wrapped steering and shift knob, and the upgraded cloth are really important (the leather steering and shift knob are where you "touch" the car, and contribute to the feeling of quality in the automobile... Hyundai should just make them standard on all cars, as it would only add a minimal amount per car ($100 max, wholesale and in the quantities Hyundai would be buying), but would help initial perception so much...). 17" wheels? I've got a sports car, not important on my sedan; I'd appreciate having them, but I'm not going to pay more than $100-$200 more for them. Fog Lights? Got them on our 2003 GLS, and use them maybe four times a year, and I live beside the ocean; we just don't get enough fog to merit going out of the way to get them. Tilt and Telescoping? My wife and I like the tilt, but we (like many) are in the sweet spot for the default steering wheel distance (though my son could probably make use of the telescoping part); since the GLS comes with Tilt, there's no need for the Telescoping in our family. And as for the upgraded stero, that's an extra cost item on the SE, too....
So, the reason you didn't see us shopping an SE is because it doesn't fill a niche... they could have just put those as various option packages and sold more cars with them. Our choice was always between a Limited (I4) or a GLS (I4 or V6) with Option Package 1. And I have a sneaky suspicion that's true of most folks.
So, like I said, if Hyundai REALLY wants to differentiate the Sonatas, move the SE into a Station Wagon version; folks can already pretty much get the "Sport" Sonata in the Limited.
#6221 of 8898 Re: looking For SE [billward]
Jun 03, 2009 (7:03 am)
So, the reason you didn't see us shopping an SE is because it doesn't fill a niche...
Well, it clearly doesn't fill YOUR niche. It's aimed at a rather small segment of the market, one that wants more sports-oriented handling in a family sedan. Most folks buying a mid-sized sedan don't care about that (witness how many Camrys are bought every month). There were some complaints that the Sonata's ride and handling are too "soft". So Hyundai acted to address that complaint by offering a trim level with different suspension tuning. I think that was a good idea, if for no other reason than to let the car mags give the Sonata a better review--as did MT when they rated the SE I4 2nd out of 10 cars in a comparo, only behind the much more expensive Passat.
Personally the SE interests me, for the crisper handling but also because I like the 17" 5-spoke alloys much better than the alloys on the Limited. But frankly the GLS is adequate for my basic needs also.
#6222 of 8898 Renting Sonata
Jun 03, 2009 (9:34 am)
Wow, didn't expect so much polemics about different trims.
$3000 rebate still there, till 6/30.
I am renting Sonata for a week right now, drove all the way to Canada.
It is GLS 4 cyl. with popular package, rental version.))
Seats fully adjustable, but missing telescopic steering. 4 cylinder surpisingly responsive, espicially initial take off in the city, gotta be careful in jammed traffic. On a highway, just put gear on 4th or 3th in manual mode for merging or quick overtakes and that's it. It satisfied me enough, so who needs 6 cyl. actually?)) And drive agressively. Usually. )) And what suprised me the most, a got 33 mpg on highway driving 75-80 most of it, except constructions!. It showed on trip computer which was same when I calculated by refills. The car leans minimally in corners, very good for a family car but no feedback from steering at all. Well, I guess Camry is no better.))
#6223 of 8898 Re: looking For SE [backy]
Jun 03, 2009 (10:34 am)
Very true, the SE doesn't occupy MY niche, even though I'd love to have had the full up version in Limited trim; the "Sport" package could be folded into an Option Package for Limited, perhaps?
Oh, and I bet the dealer would sell you some of the SE's alloy wheels if you bought a Limited.
Jun 04, 2009 (11:09 am)
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#6225 of 8898 Paid $14.4K+Taxes=$16.2K OTD
Jun 05, 2009 (2:33 pm)
Just bought Sonata GLS auto with mats only in Southern Californi for $16.2OTD. Hope this helps as reference.
#6226 of 8898 Re: Paid $14.4K+Taxes=$16.2K OTD [mkosuru]
Jun 05, 2009 (4:02 pm)
Any loyaly or military discount?
#6227 of 8898 09 sonata gls price is good??
Jun 06, 2009 (3:18 pm)
hi folks,went to my local hyundai dealership to look at the 09 sonata's.found a dark cherry red gls with the bluetooth and floor mats for $21,015.00.dealer says price will be msrp minus the $3000.00 rebate brings my price for the car to $18,015.00.
plus the TTT.is this a good price???
#6228 of 8898 Re: 09 sonata gls price is good?? [steven39]
Jun 06, 2009 (3:51 pm)
In NJ the 14 auto gls goes for ~$16,000 (before taxes and tags).
Shoot for INVOICE price less the $3,000.
#6229 of 8898 Re: 09 sonata gls price is good?? [steven39]
Jun 06, 2009 (4:58 pm)
You should definetely be able to do much better than MSRP minus rebate anywhere in the country, that would be for almost any make or model.
I agree with jack47, you should be able to get invoice price minus rebate most anywhere and below invoice minus rebate is many areas.