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Re: Close to a deal I hope on a limited with nav..... [nysniper28] by bhmr59
Oct 07, 2008 (4:31 pm)
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Replying to: nysniper28 (Oct 07, 2008 3:17 pm)

Why don't you focus on the price paid to the dealer (car's price + dealer fees) BEFORE taxes? That will be easier for everyone to understand.
 
If you have price paid to dealer + registration and any other state fees + tax for your state, you will have the true OTD price.
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Re: Bought my '09 Sonata V6, LTD, Nav, Floor Mats.... [palok] by beeney
Oct 08, 2008 (10:20 am)
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Replying to: palok (Oct 06, 2008 3:15 pm)

Edmunds is the one that states there TMV prices reflect the "actual" purchase prices on a given vehicle in a specific geographical area as defined by a "zip code". My zip is a midwestern state where I purchased my Sonata. What is odd is that I checked zip codes in Tx, Nc, Va, and Ga. and found Edmunds showing a TMV price of right at
Invoice on the identical car in all areas, yet many people are doing business far below invoice in these same areas. So don't quite understand where Edmunds is getting there data from. If it was from actual dealers as they say, it seems there TMV would be reflecting that.
So while I agree that it isn't etched in stone it "should" be reasonably close and it ain't. In reality this forum would be a much more accurate pool of data to draw from. Regardless though of cost (within reason of course) the car is a delight to drive and own. I have gotten numerous compliments on it. Love the V6 power, wish it even had more. Would like to have had a Genesis but way out of my price range.
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Re: 2009 sonata gls $16,990 ... Bob Dunn Ford Hyundai, Lee [girlething] by girlething
Oct 08, 2008 (12:55 pm)
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Replying to: girlething (Sep 22, 2008 5:06 pm)

Is the economy scaring anyone.
Im afraid to buy anything big.
The job market is so iffy..
Adding a carpayment to the mix seemssilly right now.
 
Is any one else holding off on big purchases?
 
I just dont want to miss the rebates and offer.
 
Kim
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Re: 2009 sonata gls $16,990 ... Bob Dunn Ford Hyundai, Lee [girlething] by backy
Oct 08, 2008 (3:25 pm)
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Replying to: girlething (Oct 08, 2008 12:55 pm)

I am thinking that this is probably not the best place to ask if people are holding off on big purchases... like a Sonata.
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Re: 2009 sonata gls $16,990 ... Bob Dunn Ford Hyundai, Lee [backy] by shorinji
Oct 08, 2008 (6:27 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 08, 2008 3:25 pm)

Hey guys, how did I do on this one?
 
2009 Sonata GLS w/ Automatic transmission, no other options.
Sale price 15.6, OTD 17.4 (TTL).
 
Did I get screwed?
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Re: 2009 sonata gls $16,990 ... Bob Dunn Ford Hyundai, Lee [girlething] by alamocity
Oct 08, 2008 (10:07 pm)
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Replying to: girlething (Oct 08, 2008 12:55 pm)

Great question but you might want to consider posting it on the smart shopper board as they have a topic titled buying a car during the credit crunch. Just a friendly suggestion
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Re: Bought my '09 Sonata V6, LTD, Nav, Floor Mats.... [beeney] by themerg
Oct 09, 2008 (3:48 am)
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Replying to: beeney (Oct 08, 2008 10:20 am)

I have to disagree with you there. Edmunds TMV reflects the prices that people across the country are paying for the vehicle, true. I don't think this forum is more accurate. People using this forum are probably more internet savvy and conscientious customers than your typical buyer. I would assume that most buyers out there don't base how much to pay for a vehicle based on invoice and work off of MSRP. Thus, that is why the TMV price is above invoice when people on this forum routinely post purchase prices below invoice.
 
- Merg
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Re: Should I??? [moocow1] by themerg
Oct 09, 2008 (3:53 am)
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Replying to: moocow1 (Oct 07, 2008 11:26 am)

Don't know where you live, but every dealer I've checked out around here in VA all list their Internet Price without the processing fee and destination charge (the one exception is FitzMall, which has no processing fee and includes freight in their price). They all have a disclaimer at the bottom of the web page stating such. What I find a little sleazy though is that the MSRP price they all list for their vehicles includes the destination charge, thus making the difference between the MSRP and Internet price that much more.
 
- Merg
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Re: Should I??? [moocow1] by samadams3
Oct 09, 2008 (5:20 am)
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Replying to: moocow1 (Oct 07, 2008 11:26 am)

We got a 5 speed Automatic - no extras. Did get mats,mud guards and cargo net included.
so BEFORE taxes the OTD cost is $15.3. We did get owner loyalty and $2000 rebate included. (All Sonatas have the $2000 rebate for 2009 and for 2008 Sonata its $3000)
We are going to be taxed on Fairfax MSRP rate of $17.395 for this car which will be 7% $1217.65 so for a car that costs $20.000 MSRP and paying a total of $16.5 for this car is a deal indeed. I could not find anyone anywhere that could come close to this price for a 2009 automatic. Even other dealerships told me that Fairfax must get extra 'incentives' from Hyundai as they sell the most cars in the area. Perhaps they don't make much money off the internet price, but they are selling their cars. It was the easiest purchase of a car no hassling and no harassing to get the extra options. I would definitely go back there again. We were done in 1 1/2 hours. It was worth the journey from NJ.
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Re: Should I??? [samadams3] by jfritsch
Oct 10, 2008 (4:41 am)
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Replying to: samadams3 (Oct 09, 2008 5:20 am)

Edmunds TMV is of limited use sometimes. I don't know how they calculate it, and numerous prices paid forums were posting prices paid well under it, especially for trucks/suv's the last few years, if you relied on TMV and just shot for that, you may have left 1000's on the table.
 
Avoid psychological warm fuzzys (like TMV) etc, arbitrarily assuring you you weren't screwed. The lowest price you can get out of 10-20 dealers via email last week of the month is the lowest you can get.
 
Even nada and nada.com book trade in prices on used cars are suspect as many states base yearly car taxes and such on it and it is suspected of being arbitrarily high.
 
Price:
For those who need targets, a 20000 msrp 2007 sonata gls has a kbb trade in value of about $12000, about the same from other sources. Add about 20% to the trade in of a used one for a new 08 and about 35-40% for a new 09 (2 years depreciation)
 
Puts you about 16000+/- for a new 09 Sonata. This is around the number you want 10-20 dealers via email to meet or try to aggressively beat (with all dealer doc fees and such). This formula holds for about 95% of production autos. Hyundai has aggressive promotions in some eastern (eg VA, NY) and western parts of the country and some of you will be more successful than others on this particular vehicle.
 
Financing:
Aggressively shop financing options and know your monthly payment to expect as you can easily leave $2000 or more on the table there over 4 or 5 years and waste your time trying to squeeze $100 off the price or equivalent in oil changes, floormats etc out of some manager.
 
Extended Warranty/Service agreements.
Avoid obviously buying an extended warranty on a Hyundai. For other makes with a 36000 mi bumper to bumper and 60000 mi powertrain warranty about $800 is what you want for a 7yr/100k mi bumper to bumper FACTORY extension on an average sedan. For bigger vehicles with 4wd, navi, reverse sensors etc we're talking about $1100 or so. Avoid being taken for $1800-2000 for these in the finance office. Avoid aftermarket warranties from unknown warranty companies.
 
Add ons:
Paint sealant, wheel locks, pinstripes, undercoat, fabric guard have a total dealer cost of $200 more or less if all on the same car. Avoid paying for any of it.
 
Good luck
--jjf

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