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Re: Another Hyundai dealership to go to [njalan] by nhphd
Jul 06, 2008 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: njalan (Jul 06, 2008 6:56 am)

I don't know the whole story in that video but I want to take the dealership side or at least not the customer side. You send your stupid mother to buy a car and then you come back to rescue her? Why not help her to buy the car in the first place? Why did she drove away the car from the lot without being approved and financed? Too good to be true.
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Re: Purchased 2009 Sonata I4 GLS [fullback100] by butchiek
Jul 06, 2008 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: fullback100 (Jul 04, 2008 11:14 pm)

Hey Fullback100,
What was the MSRP on the window sticker for the 09 Sonata you bought.It sounds like there must have been great Factory to Dealer incentives to get it for the price you did.
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Re: Rebate changes-ad prices don't [m6user] by backy
Jul 06, 2008 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Jul 05, 2008 7:08 pm)

It could be that dealers are taking advantage of the positive press on the 2009 Sonata to rachet their asking prices up (keeping prices level while rebates go up). Nothing wrong with that. I'd rather that not happen, at least not until AFTER I buy my car this fall (which could be a Sonata) , but dealers are free to set whatever asking prices they want on a car.
 
You'd probably like this one (not): saw an ad for a 2009 GLS that at first glance looks to be about $1000 less than in ads from other dealers in town. Then I noticed some very small print down in the corner of the ad: "Price includes military rebate" [which is $1000]. Now that is sleazy, I think, since few people in my area will qualify for that rebate.
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Re: Rebate changes-ad prices don't [backy] by m6user
Jul 06, 2008 (10:03 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 06, 2008 9:33 am)

Those are pretty much my thoughts on the dealers pricing. It just seems a shame that Hyundai increases the rebate to drive business for the dealers by selling more cars and dealers would rather sell a few less cars but make a few more bucks. But you're right....it's their perogative. That is sleazy with the fine print on the military rebate although you'd probably be surprized at the number of military there are around the Twin Cities though.
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Re: Purchased 2009 Sonata I4 GLS [butchiek] by fullback100
Jul 06, 2008 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: butchiek (Jul 06, 2008 9:00 am)

MSRP was $20,285 b/c I got white pearl for extra $200. I bought my car on 4th of July so there might have been some kind of manufacture's special incentive. But I got a call this morning from the dealer that I purchased my vehicle from saying that I am not qualified for $400 graduation rebate b/c the graduatio rebate is only applicable for students from 4 years university. And they told me I needed to come in and write out another contract!!? My understanding was the rebate is good for any college. If they don't honor that, my prices will jump from $15,100 to $15,500 +tax & license. I will see how it goes.
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Re: Purchased 2009 Sonata I4 GLS [fullback100] by backy
Jul 06, 2008 (1:54 pm)
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Replying to: fullback100 (Jul 06, 2008 12:40 pm)

I recommend you send the dealer an email and tell them to look at the following web page, regarding the graduation rebate. Note that the web page has not been updated with the current dates or model years. You could also ask them to fax to you (if you have access to a fax) the current terms of the graduation rebate, before you take your time to go in there. But do NOT rewrite the contract unless they can give you written evidence that the rebate doesn't cover your school.
 
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/financing/specialoffers/collegegraduate.aspx
 
The web page says in part:
 
A four-year university, an accredited two-year college, or nursing school. Includes graduates and graduate candidates attending an accredited masters or doctorate program. Applicants must be graduates of U.S. universities. Visit your participating Hyundai dealer for details.
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Re: Purchased 2009 Sonata I4 GLS [fullback100] by nhphd
Jul 06, 2008 (5:31 pm)
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Replying to: fullback100 (Jul 06, 2008 12:40 pm)

Call Hyundai directly and ask them about the details.
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Re: Purchased 2009 Sonata I4 GLS [backy] by fullback100
Jul 06, 2008 (8:13 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 06, 2008 1:54 pm)

I had another conversation this afternoon. They admitted the rebate is good for any two year college or four year university BUT they said they doubt they could honor the graduation rebate on 09 Sonata. They will let me know the result after their Thursday meeting.
 
My question:
Should I fight them for $400 if they don't honor that rebate and make them pay that amount out of their pocket since we agreeded on the price of $15,100 on the contract? I don't know. They kept implying that the rebate is directly from Hyundai and they don't bear any consequence it bears with. But my support is that since dealers conduct business on behalf of Hyundai and we already signed the contract for $16,7000 OTD price, I think they should be liable what ever on the contract. What do you guys think?
 
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Purchased 2009 Sonata I4 GLS [nhphd] by rotary
Jul 06, 2008 (8:13 pm)
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Replying to: nhphd (Jul 06, 2008 5:31 pm)

98.3% of car dealers objectively qualify as 'scum of the earth.'
 
It doesn't matter what make. It doesn't matter if it's a high end or low end car they're selling.
 
And I know there are many car salesmen and dealers pa(trolling) this site, and I say to you, if you're the 1.7% of the exception that isn't 'scum of the earth,' congratulations and kudos.
 
I've had a very good interaction with a Hyundai dealership (recently), although I haven't made the decision to buy the car at excellent price quoted just yet.
 
I've also had a great experience at a Honda dealership about 8 years ago, where I called about a sale price advertised on an Accord that seemed too good to be true, the salesman told me it was real and to just come in and there'd be no games, I did, and there weren't. Not a single one. He wrote the contract up at the advertised price, with a vehicle that had more equipment than advertised (because they didn't have any of the advertised cars left - so it was consumer friendly bait-and-switch), and the whole process took an hour, tops, and I still send business to him when people I know or know of are looking for any Honda.
 
Very refreshing.
 
Other than, that, it's been bad, bad, bad. Terrible. I'd rather have a root canal than deal with car salesmen.
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Re: Purchased 2009 Sonata I4 GLS [fullback100] by backy
Jul 07, 2008 (6:18 am)
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Replying to: fullback100 (Jul 06, 2008 8:13 pm)

OK, a couple of things...
 
* Legal (I am NOT a lawyer; you might want to check with one): the contract is a contract of adhesion. That means the other party had total control over its terms. That means if the other party disputes the contract terms, they are normally decided in your favor since you did not have control over the terms.
 
* Business ethics and fairness: the dealer could easily have checked (and SHOULD have checked) the rebate terms before agreeing to give you the discount. They didn't, but they did agree on a price with you. They should honor that price. Maybe it will be a good lesson for them and they will check the rebate terms in the future!
 
* Exceptions: did you sign anything that says something to the effect of, "If there are any errors found in the contract after it's signed, both parties agree to correct them"? I recall the last time I bought a car, that was part of the paperwork. If you signed such a document, you may be out of luck on the legal angle but can still appeal to the dealership on the ethics/fairness issue. Maybe toss in comments like, "I'll be servicing this car and buying other cars in the future, and would like to be able to give you my business, but if you can't honor our agreement, I would not feel comfortable doing business with you in the future."

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