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Prices up? by backy
Jun 05, 2008 (4:27 pm)
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Those who were waiting for rebates to increase on the Sonata.... they didn't. Same as for May it appears (I didn't check all states). But it looks like at least some dealers have noticed that demand for the Sonata has increased.... up 12% in May from last year. For example, Towne Hyundai (NJ) has increased its Internet pricing on the 2009 Sonata by about $300--it's now $1800 under invoice instead of $2101 (before rebates).
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Re: Prices up? [backy] by 2002slt
Jun 05, 2008 (4:48 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 05, 2008 4:27 pm)

Towne Hyundai (NJ) has increased its Internet pricing on the 2009 Sonata by about $300--it's now $1800 under invoice instead of $2101 (before rebates).
 
I really wish they would stop that. I can't believe Hyundai lets them get away with undercutting the other dealers across the country.
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Re: Prices up? [2002slt] by moocow1
Jun 05, 2008 (5:03 pm)
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Replying to: 2002slt (Jun 05, 2008 4:48 pm)

Undercutting? Plenty of dealers out there who sell under invoice. In fact if you're not, you're way overpriced most likely. Anyways there's no manufacturer rule on minimum sales price...and I'm DAMN glad of that. I'm so sick of tv sellers that have to show a hidden price in order to find out what it actually is. Consumers win here, everyone on this board should be happy for low prices.
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Re: Prices up? [moocow1] by backy
Jun 05, 2008 (5:15 pm)
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Replying to: moocow1 (Jun 05, 2008 5:03 pm)

There's been buying reports here on dealers who come close to if not beat Towne's pricing. Maybe not every dealer sells in the same volume as Towne and gets the same manufacturer-to-dealer incentives, but I'm not going to complain when a dealer offers well-below-invoice pricing. It's a refreshing change from those days (still here in some cases) when dealers tried to charge over MSRP for cars.
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Re: Prices up? [2002slt] by bhmr59
Jun 05, 2008 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: 2002slt (Jun 05, 2008 4:48 pm)

We were very happy to save a couple thousand by buying at Towne.
 
What you are proposing is the same concept as requiring all dealers to sell at full MSRP. Did you pay MSRP, less any rebate, or did you check around or negotiate to get the best price possible?
 
Pricing can be regional...even the factory rebates can vary from one state to another. Used car pricing guides, such as N.A.D.A. print several regional editions.
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Towne Hyundai by dgs4
Jun 05, 2008 (6:08 pm)
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I really wonder how this Towne Hyundai everyone here is talking about makes any money? $2,000 under invoice? Seriously, how do they pay their sales people a decent commission and keep the doors open to the dealership with those prices. I mean what's the most they're making on a car, net profit of a couple of hundred dollars? I just don't get it. Are they doing some kind of outrageous volume or something? I know the economy is tough but those prices are ridiculously low regardless.
 
As demand for Hyundai products continues to increase I suspect Hyundai dealerships will stop this bottom feeder type of pricing. All it does is cheapen the image of the brand and absolutely kill resale value. Everyone complains about Hyundai's horrible resale value, but it's never going to get any better if everyone expects to buy one for thousands under invoice. You don't think MINI has one of the best resale values in the business by offloading their cars to the lowest bidder. You're lucky if you get $500 off the price of a new MINI. I'm not saying Hyundai dealerships need to be that extreme, but I seriously hope they toughen up on their prices. Car dealerships deserve to earn profit too you know.
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Re: Towne Hyundai [dgs4] by elvisluvs
Jun 05, 2008 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: dgs4 (Jun 05, 2008 6:08 pm)

Hi Dgs4- interesting thoughts about towne hyundai's pricing. My local dealer's salesman said to my wife a few month's back "we are not going to give it away. " In my opinion there is not enough competition between hyundai dealers- so for the most part many of them (like my area's dealer)are getting away with overcharging on price. Maybe that's why so many folks here look into the higher volume dealers to buy from. As for the mini- I would imagine that there are always going to be folks looking for a hip car. I'm not sure that everyone would like to drive them though.
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Re: Towne Hyundai [dgs4] by bhmr59
Jun 05, 2008 (7:51 pm)
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Replying to: dgs4 (Jun 05, 2008 6:08 pm)

I first heard about Towne Hyundai in Feb, '07 on a Sunday afternoon. There was a new Azera from NJ in the parking lot of a restaurant I met a friend at to have a drink and get out of the house. Went outside for a smoke & was looking at the car. The owner of the Azera came out and told us about the great deals Towne Hyundai offered. We couldn't believe it. But upon checking found that Towne is a real deal, no BS.
 
We're 100 miles away in CT & after confirming prices bought an '07 Sonata SE within a week.
 
For $5400 under MSRP, I don't shive a git about resale when the common definition of resale is measured against MSRP. We saved $5400 from retail, about $4400 from invoice (would have to check exact figures at my office). I saw 1 year old Sonatas at the local dealer lot with an advertised price over $1K higher than we paid new.
 
Towne & Fitz are apparantly very high volume dealers and must get great factory incentives based upon their volumes. I don't care how/where they make their money, as long as treat the customer right, which I can say Towne does (never dealt with Fitz).
 
They have been offering this type of pricing (varies from month to month depending on rebates & incentives to dealer) for at least 2 years, based on what the guy from NJ told me in the parking lot 16 months ago.
 
The employees must do OK, as the salesman I know has been there since before we bought.
 
Again, this is internet pricing. If you look at their local ads on their web site you will see more traditional pricing. If the internet pricing allows them to sell an extra (?) cars per month (100?, 200?), it's got to be profitable.
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Re: Towne Hyundai [bhmr59] by m6user
Jun 05, 2008 (8:46 pm)
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Replying to: bhmr59 (Jun 05, 2008 7:51 pm)

Anybody that believes car dealers make their money on new car sales are delusional. It's that used car they give you $6000 for and sell for $10000(not ask but get) where they make money. Also, the more new cars they sell, the more warranty work they are going to get in their shop and oil changes/rotations, etc, etc.
 
Non-luxury dealers have not really made much off new cars sales since the advent of the internet. Just enough to pay the light bills---the real money is in used cars and the back shop.
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Re: Towne Hyundai [dgs4] by moocow1
Jun 05, 2008 (8:52 pm)
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Replying to: dgs4 (Jun 05, 2008 6:08 pm)

Massive incentives from hyundai. When I bought my car, my dealer said they were offering some nice incentives to him to allow him to give me the price. I think most dealers are rewarded for being high volume, it obviously helps hyundai move all those u nits and try to hit their unrealistic sales goals.(No way they're going up much in this slow market year. I think if the dealers weren't making money, they wouldn't still be around. All the high volume guys in my area are alive and kicking!
And btw m6user, I must be terrible then because I never trade in and always pay cash(Although someday I might take a 0-0.9% deal) Dealer's never make an extra penny off me on that.

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