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2007 Sonata Used by dabears3
Apr 27, 2008 (7:43 pm)
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Regarding the previous posts - I really think all dealerships are sketchy in some way, that's just the way it is.
 
Here's my recent purchase: I live in Chicago and this weekend I bought a 2007 Sonata with all the fixin's except sunroof (woodtrim, steering wheel controls, cruise etc...). Purchase price was $14,300 before TTL - car has 6400 miles.
 
I love it and feel like I got a good deal, however the dealership, like most, was trying to grind me down for every extra penny they could get.
 
I bought the car from Patrick Hyundai in Schaumburg, IL. All these places play games - after we settled on price they told me that they only had one set of keys. If I wanted a second set (of course I did) it would cost $6 for the key and an additional $212 for the keyless entry remote (100 for remote and 112 for the programming of the remote). I almost walked out - I threw a fit and basically called them out on that B.S. tactic although I ended up paying $56 for the extra key (guy said he would give me the remote for free and 'split the cost' of the programming). I know this was all B.S. and I could have probably got it all for free but at that point I just wanted to close the deal up. Their whole mission is to wear you down, grinding you out for every penny.
 
So that's my story - I love the car it drives like a dream. I hate dealing with salesmen though, it's the only part that makes buying a car a bit painful.
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Re: any illinois buyers here? [snakeweasel] by southhavenjen
Apr 28, 2008 (3:10 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Apr 27, 2008 5:41 pm)

I expect pretty much all dealers to be shady, but was pleasantly surprised and pleased with the process of buying from Ettleson.
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Re: 2007 Sonata Used [dabears3] by m6user
Apr 28, 2008 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: dabears3 (Apr 27, 2008 7:43 pm)

I really think all dealerships are sketchy in some way, that's just the way it is.
 
To some degree but there are those that are a lot better than others. One thing is to try to grind out every dollar(isn't that the same thing the customer is trying to do) and the other is to outright lie. When you read about all the lies that customers tell on these forums to get that last $50 to $100 off and then get downright indignant when a dealer tries to get that last $50 to $100 in profit, it seems a little hypocritical sometimes. What other major item do we buy where we know the invoice price and even demand that we also get the dealer's hold back.(I never have but I have seen posts that do)
 
When we buy a house do we call the builder a shyster because we don't know his exact cost and what his margins are. I know it's a two way street and dealers didn't get their reputations for nothing but it seems with the advent of the internet that we really expect a lot sometimes.
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Re: any illinois buyers here? [southhavenjen] by snakeweasel
Apr 28, 2008 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: southhavenjen (Apr 28, 2008 3:10 am)

As I said when he had the Chevy dealership I heard enough horror stories to stay away from anything that has his or his former partners name on it. And I don't mean your typical shady dealings I mean out right fraud.
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08 Elantra/Sonota by bob225
Apr 28, 2008 (2:14 pm)
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I was looking at a 2008 Elantra SE with Premium Pkg with MSRP of $18265 and would go down to 15.7k,
 
Dealer said I could get a better deal on 2008 Sonota AT. Automatic 4 cyl.and perfered pkg. MSRP of $ 19,680 will sell for $ 15,454. Plus TT&L This included mudflaps, truck net and matts. You guys think I can get it down to $ 15k even?
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Pleasant surprise by jim1299
Apr 28, 2008 (3:59 pm)
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Replying to: southhavenjen (Apr 28, 2008 3:10 am)

To me the biggest thing about buying a car is the variability of treatment you encounter from the dealerships. I know that where you are in the month and how desperate the dealership is to make its sales quota is a factor, but still it seems almost random how one buyer can have a nightmare experience haggling over every dollar, while another can have a great purchase even if not the most informed buyer.
I'd imagine (based on some posts here) that both experiences could be had at the same dealership.
 
As I related earlier this month, I fell into the latter category this time around. Yes, I typically research prospective major purchases to the nth degree, but frankly hadn't done much research on Hyundai's per se since I was more 'checking the box' of a test drive and establishing a baseline before moving onto more mainstream choices (Honda and Toyota). Three hours of test drives ('08 vs '09, I4 vs V6) later I appeared to have lucked into a 'too good to be true' deal on an '09 Sonata Limited V6 (priced $500 less than an '09 LImited 4 cylinder!) I went home and asked the Costco buyer's service for a quote which came in over $2500 higher, and thus rather than testing other makes (which at best would have been 'as good' but for waaay more money) went back to the dealership the next afternoon to seal the deal before that particular vehicle (the showroom demo) disappeared. Noticed that the "Internet price" (this was at Fitzgerald Auto mall) price on the car's sticker was $400 more than the current price on the Internet for the vehicle, and expected to be told the sticker was correct. Was told instead that 'of course' they'd go with the current 'Net price. Encountered only one half-hearted and almost perfunctory attempt to interest me in gap insurance or an extended warranty during closing, and then was out the door in the new car. (Going late in the day-- such that the mechanics of the purchase processed dragged beyond closing time-- may have accounted for some of the staff's eagerness to finish the deal and go home!)
 
I guess that as in the rest of life you can be 'good' or 'lucky', but that doesn't make the experience any less frustrating.
 
Karma probably dictates that I'll pay more that MSRP for my next car, so I'd better make this Sonata last!
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08 Elantra/Sonota by bob225
Apr 28, 2008 (4:23 pm)
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What kind of extended warraty can you get or need on these cars?
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Re: 08 Elantra/Sonota [bob225] by backy
Apr 28, 2008 (5:59 pm)
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Replying to: bob225 (Apr 28, 2008 2:14 pm)

Can you be a little more clear what options are on this car? There's no such thing as a "preferred pkg", and the lowest priced package, Popular Equipment Package, costs $650 and makes the MSRP of the car over $20k. Without any options except AT and mats/guards/net, the invoice is nearly $16k so you would be asking for about $1000 under invoice after rebate. Possible? Maybe. They may have some incentives to make it worth their while. Why not make the dealer a firm offer for $15k + TT&L? If they say "OK", you have yourself a car. If they say "no way," you can thank them for their time, say you'll be checking other dealers, and leave. If they go after you, you have a chance. If not, you know $15k is too low--at least for now.
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08 Elantra/Sonota by bob225
Apr 28, 2008 (6:25 pm)
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this option:
 
  
Popular Equipment Package
 - Power driver seat
 - Steering wheel audio controls
 - Driver’s lumbar support
 - Automatic light control
 - Trip computer
 - Chrome window belt moldings
 - Metalgrain accents (gray interior)
 - Woodgrain accents (beige interior)
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Re: 08 Elantra/Sonota [bob225] by backy
Apr 28, 2008 (6:31 pm)
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Replying to: bob225 (Apr 28, 2008 6:25 pm)

OK, so the MSRP of the 2008 Sonata with the PEP and mats/flaps/net is $20,405, invoice is $19,519. So you are shooting for $1519 under invoice after rebate. Like I said, make them a firm offer and see what they say. They could say yes...

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