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Replying to: worldly (Jul 30, 2007 8:16 am) No one suggested that you should pay more than the going rate. No one suggested that you should buy from a dealer that has high prices. We did suggest that dealers can ask whatever they want for their goods. That isn't unethical. These aren't life neccessities that can't be acquired in any other manner. You are free to buy the same car from another dealer, or even another car altogether. If a dealer consistently gets beat on price, then he'll be out of business eventually. I'm not sure why you are so angry. According to your own posts, no dealer has done anything but quote you a price that you don't like. regards, kyfdx
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jul 30, 2007 8:34 am) The title of this forum is "Prices Paid: Buying and Leasing Experiences" I articulated my "experience." My opinion was clear and to the point. I believe many dealers are predatory in their pricing and sales tactics, and I provided data to support my opinion. I did this for the benefit of the forum and less-savvy, car-buying public. Do I need to remind you that car dealers, in general, have an extremely poor track record when it comes to ethical sales conduct? MSNBC, an industry leader in revealing unethical and illegal conduct, reported this fact using their hidden cameras.(http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3660557/) If you detect any anger, it's my anger at an industry that's all too often unethical and predatory. My experience confirms it, and I feel duty-bound to report it publicly. One of the posters attempted to denigrate my opinion using misinformation. He/she attempted to justify a dealer's counter-offer as non-predatory and ethical. True, I should have been less harsh, and withheld opinions that were personal in nature. Point well taken. However, you, in fairness, need to reprimand all posters equally. The poster in question was also "personal" in his/her attack of my opinion. Respectfully, worldly |
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Replying to: worldly (Jul 30, 2007 8:16 am) |
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Replying to: colloquor (Jul 28, 2007 7:07 pm) Buyers....make your best deal and own it. If you don't feel comfortable then don't bring it home and park it in your garage. But if you do, don't come here and complain because you weren't an informed shopper or too lazy to drive the extra mile. Target sells a bath towel for $10.00 and ____-wart offers the same towel for $5.00. Ooops I paid too much for my towel...shame on me...but it still dries me off so oh well. If you don't like the offer presented to you buy elsewhere. This is STILL and always will be America. Free enterprise and we ARE all still driven by the almighty $$. |
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Replying to: worldly (Jul 30, 2007 9:31 am) When I bought my 06 Sonata, I paid about $200 more than the best price I had seen on this exact forum. I was polite to the sales lady, told her what I was willing to pay, and after 10 minutes of back-and-forth, her sales manager OK'd it. I may have been able to talk them down another $100, but it was easily worth $200 to keep things cordial and stress-free. That was the best buying experience, and best deal, I have ever had. When I take my car in for service, I still stop in and say hello to my sales lady. That's the way it's supposed to work.
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Replying to: bobad (Aug 01, 2007 8:00 am)
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Replying to: joedie (Aug 01, 2007 8:10 am) |
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Replying to: worldly (Jul 30, 2007 9:31 am) PS Wonder if my MBA meets with your approval!... 
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Replying to: joedie (Aug 01, 2007 8:10 am) All those sleazy tactics they pull are not the salesmen's fault. They're perpetuated by uneducated customers that fail to do the research. That nonsense shouldn't even be discussed. Just dispense with it, it's a waste of time. It only causes stress and hard feelings. Walk in knowing what you will pay for a given car with given options. That's what Edmunds is for. Tell them you would like to drive a car home as soon as they can prep it. Let them know right up front that you know exactly what you want, and the price you are willing to pay. If they mention this deal or that deal, this add-on or that add-on, just smile and tell them that's not what you want. If they refuse, and you aren't willing to offer them $100-$200 more, then thank them and ask them to call you if they need a sale. That will usually fetch a "WAIT!!"
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We bought a 2007 Sonata GLS automatic in Denver Monday at the following cost: $19,180 sticker price negotiated to: $17,550 including destination/handling/plates/etc. -$2000 cash back rebate $15550 final price + tax Paid in cash The dealer showed us their invoice for the exact car, including hold back, destination, all the details. At first, he wouldn't go below the price minus holdback and destination (turned out to be $18,074), but brought it down a little to $17,550 eventually to the argument that the car has depreciated because it is effectively one year old. I believe the date of delivery on the invoice was April 2007. We came in asking for a manual (for the price difference), but were told there were none left in the state and would have to order it from another dealer if we really wanted it. Apparently they didn't make too many like that. Our saleswoman was new, very honest and nice. Car purchased from Shortline Hyundai in Aurora.
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