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Hyundai Sonata Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: I Offered $14,700 for 07 GLS w/Option Package 02 [hyusubiesales] by worldly
Jul 30, 2007 (8:16 am)
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Replying to: hyusubiesales (Jul 28, 2007 9:06 pm)

QUOTE FROM hyusubiesales, "14,900 + fees would be a deal at my dealership, of course, i am in california, fancy a nice california vacation for your new car purchase???"
 
I can't accept your deal because it's too good of a bargain! According to the so-called "experts" here, I need to overpay and accept uncompetitive offers to allow unscrupulous and predatory car dealers to stay in business.
 
For what's it's worth, the same dealer that gave me the ridiculous, predatory counter-offer ($16,500+TTL) ran an ad in the local newspaper (July 29, 2007) for the same vehicle for $14,999+TTL.
 
But, according to the "expert," I should treat this dealer civilly even though they obviously attempted to rip me off.
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Re: TX, 2007 Sonata GLS + Premium Package [market] by fwallets
Jul 30, 2007 (8:23 am)
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Replying to: market (Jul 29, 2007 8:04 pm)

It's
 
Garlyn Shelton Hyundai in Bryan/College Station. I don't think you can get it $ 14,000 if you pay cash, as the deal included $ 1,000 extra HMFC balloon financing rebate.
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Re: I Offered $14,700 for 07 GLS w/Option Package 02 [worldly] by kyfdx HOST
Jul 30, 2007 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: worldly (Jul 30, 2007 8:16 am)

Well.. you can paraphrase our posts to say just about anything you want, but not one poster stated any of those things..
 
  No one suggested that you should pay more than the going rate. No one suggested that you should buy from a dealer that has high prices.
 
We did suggest that dealers can ask whatever they want for their goods. That isn't unethical. These aren't life neccessities that can't be acquired in any other manner. You are free to buy the same car from another dealer, or even another car altogether. If a dealer consistently gets beat on price, then he'll be out of business eventually.
 
I'm not sure why you are so angry. According to your own posts, no dealer has done anything but quote you a price that you don't like.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: I Offered $14,700 for 07 GLS w/Option Package 02 [kyfdx] by worldly
Jul 30, 2007 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jul 30, 2007 8:34 am)

Exactly who is angry? Why do you say I'm angry?
 
The title of this forum is "Prices Paid: Buying and Leasing Experiences"
 
I articulated my "experience." My opinion was clear and to the point. I believe many dealers are predatory in their pricing and sales tactics, and I provided data to support my opinion. I did this for the benefit of the forum and less-savvy, car-buying public.
 
Do I need to remind you that car dealers, in general, have an extremely poor track record when it comes to ethical sales conduct? MSNBC, an industry leader in revealing unethical and illegal conduct, reported this fact using their hidden cameras.(http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3660557/)
 
If you detect any anger, it's my anger at an industry that's all too often unethical and predatory. My experience confirms it, and I feel duty-bound to report it publicly.
 
One of the posters attempted to denigrate my opinion using misinformation. He/she attempted to justify a dealer's counter-offer as non-predatory and ethical.
 
True, I should have been less harsh, and withheld opinions that were personal in nature. Point well taken.
 
However, you, in fairness, need to reprimand all posters equally. The poster in question was also "personal" in his/her attack of my opinion.
 
Respectfully,
 
worldly
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Re: I Offered $14,700 for 07 GLS w/Option Package 02 [worldly] by alamocity
Jul 30, 2007 (11:00 am)
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Replying to: worldly (Jul 30, 2007 8:16 am)

I read that ad as well and while it showed $14,999.00 the fine print also mentioned the $500.00 bonus cash (finance through Hyundai) and $500.00 military discount, without those additional rebates price should be $15,999.00.
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Re: I Offered $14,700 for 07 GLS w/Option Package 02 [colloquor] by craigbrooks
Jul 30, 2007 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: colloquor (Jul 28, 2007 7:07 pm)

Backy I've/we've got your back (no pun intended).
 
Buyers....make your best deal and own it. If you don't feel comfortable then don't bring it home and park it in your garage. But if you do, don't come here and complain because you weren't an informed shopper or too lazy to drive the extra mile. Target sells a bath towel for $10.00 and ____-wart offers the same towel for $5.00. Ooops I paid too much for my towel...shame on me...but it still dries me off so oh well. If you don't like the offer presented to you buy elsewhere. This is STILL and always will be America. Free enterprise and we ARE all still driven by the almighty $$.
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Re: I Offered $14,700 for 07 GLS w/Option Package 02 [worldly] by bobad
Aug 01, 2007 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: worldly (Jul 30, 2007 9:31 am)

If I was a car salesman, and someone came in demanding things, I wouldn't even want the sale. Customers like that are not worth a few hundred bucks profit in the long run.
 
When I bought my 06 Sonata, I paid about $200 more than the best price I had seen on this exact forum. I was polite to the sales lady, told her what I was willing to pay, and after 10 minutes of back-and-forth, her sales manager OK'd it. I may have been able to talk them down another $100, but it was easily worth $200 to keep things cordial and stress-free. That was the best buying experience, and best deal, I have ever had. When I take my car in for service, I still stop in and say hello to my sales lady. That's the way it's supposed to work.
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Re: I Offered $14,700 for 07 GLS w/Option Package 02 [bobad] by joedie
Aug 01, 2007 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: bobad (Aug 01, 2007 8:00 am)

I don't have any problem with American free enterprise. I have a problem with deceptive advertising and selling practices. That is pretty easy to understand. When all the hidden costs and they won't let you figure it all out or the price quoted in the pare is always for enticing customers but there never is a car in sight like the one in the ad and he actual price with all costs is usually ten thousand more than what the price started out at in the paper, that is not good customer relations. Sorry that i expect better and more respect and don't insult my intelligence.
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Re: I Offered $14,700 for 07 GLS w/Option Package 02 [joedie] by backy
Aug 01, 2007 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: joedie (Aug 01, 2007 8:10 am)

There is a way to avoid the hassle associated with negotiating. Go to a no-haggle dealership. Those I've visited in my area were pleasant to deal with, because you pay the same price anyone else would pay for the same car, at a given time. The only negotiating is over the trade-in, if you have one. (And I suppose you can negotiate over add-ons and extended warranty if you want to.) The downside is that you may not get the lowest possible price, compared to checking many dealerships and being a skilled negotiator.
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Re: I Offered $14,700 for 07 GLS w/Option Package 02 [worldly] by godeacs
Aug 01, 2007 (8:14 pm)
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Replying to: worldly (Jul 30, 2007 9:31 am)

If not "angry" you certainly have an "attitude" to this bystander!..... backy was quite diplomatic in his response to you; more than I would have been! The moderator has been too. Please take the hint....
 
PS Wonder if my MBA meets with your approval!...

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