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#850 of 1426 by ateixeira Jun 30, 2003 (5:13 am)
Well then, you gotta get out and watch mike (paisan) drive. He's a wild man. He's in the NY/NJ area, though he runs NASA autocross, not SCCA.   He used to run his dad's Legacy, and would routinly finish 2nd or 3rd in his class. And keep in mind it's a quicker class than the Maxima and Accord V6s compete in. His times were well ahead of those cars. This in an automatic 2.2l Legacy.   He's now running a 2.2l Impreza and placing about the same, near the top every time.   Clearly he's quick, and the driver has a lot to do with it, but so does the AWD.   Wasn't is grass roots motorsports that ran an Odyssey against an E-type and another classic sports car, and the minivan won?   -juice
#851 of 1426 Is that a wagon? by boaz47 Jun 30, 2003 (6:37 am)
That someone autocrosses? I almost forgot autocross or Solo so I will look and see how they do in class. I will get back on that.
#852 of 1426 by ateixeira Jun 30, 2003 (7:52 am)
I found the link:   http://teamiac.com/   His current ride is the SVX and an Impreza he's building up gradually.   -juice
#853 of 1426 ateixeira by boaz47 Jun 30, 2003 (10:59 am)
Still, doesn't look like a Forester, Legacy, or a legacy wagon. I am sure people can try to get almost anything into some kind of class for Solo racing. Doesn't add sporting heritage or ability to the car. What class does Subaru run in in Solo? Stock what, modified what? I will look first chance I get. Someone that posted in some other forum I was in even raced a Insight in Scca Solo. Does quite well in class I think. I am not ready to concede it is a sports coupe.
#854 of 1426 by ateixeira Jun 30, 2003 (11:27 am)
Tell you what, I'll ask him to join this topic to share the info, it's 2nd hand and obviously my memory is geezin'.   I think he drove the Legacy before they formalized the autocross team.   <off to find mike>   -juice
#855 of 1426 Here I am... by paisan Jun 30, 2003 (1:57 pm)
I'll auto-x or track just about anything!   I've auto-xed:   Outbacks WRX Wagons WRX Sedans XT6 AT XT6 MT Impreza L Impreza RS Grand Am Sedan SVX RX7 Honda Civic Hatchback (70hp 83lbs torque 4MT) Legacy L Legacy L Wagon   In SCCA the outback runs in H-stock. In NASA it runs in Group G.   The Outback wagon did great at the auto-x. Lots of power etc. Most of the cars I auto-x are ATs as well.     Took 2nd place that day in class (about 7-10 cars in class)   -mike
#856 of 1426 I had forgotten by boaz47 Jun 30, 2003 (2:19 pm)
so much about Solo. They will race about anything. Still, it seems quite a stretch to call one a GT after a road racer. What class is the Legacy wagon? How do you get passed the weight penalty? I take that back, you are running stock. Does any of this carry over to Pro Solo?   It must be remembered my grass roots racing in 1/8 and 1/4 mile drag racing and I don't see many wagons running. I have only been to SCCA events in our area. What district are you running in? I'll try to follow your progress.
#857 of 1426 And just by boaz47 Jun 30, 2003 (2:31 pm)
so we are on the same page. We see racing SUVs in desert racing as well but I am not willing to call them GT SUVs either.   But when I said I watched SCCA and foreign sedan racing I was talking about the Touring car races in both the US and Europe. At the Atlanta race on June 27-29 I didn't see one Subaru let alone a Subaru wagon. They did race a hatch or two I believe. Out of 44 cars I don't believe I saw one wagon. Can anyone confirm if Subaru has a touring car team and how they are doing?
#858 of 1426 We don't run the Outback anymore by paisan Jun 30, 2003 (2:37 pm)
But we are building a '96 Impreza L. Currently we are doing HPDEs, Time Trials, and SCCA and NASA Solos/Auto-xs. 1/4mile? 1/8mile? You mean straight line? That's not exactly racing, that's just where I go to test mods after taking a baseline. No GT car will do well in a drag race, they are generally too heavy.   As for touring cars, Gary Sheehan(sp?) has been doing the touring car circuit in his WRX Sedan.   -mike
#859 of 1426 taking the family car to the dragstrip by subewannabe Jun 30, 2003 (6:28 pm)
boaz47 reminded me of the days before noise ordinances, where everybody could enter their car in stock classes at the local dragstrip. i once ran a '56 coupe de ville (sweet!) and had to be careful not to bust out of class at 25 seconds!   a 280 hp turbo AWD staton wagon may not meet the usual definitions of GT, but it would still be a hoot to drive. i wonder if it comes with a rear-  facing third seat? Mark

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