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Re: tides... [explorerx4] by tidester HOST
Aug 25, 2004 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Aug 25, 2004 4:20 pm)

It would seem to me that the "causes" are not particularly relevant here since there is nothing to support the notion of significant disparity between SUVs and cars with respect to seatbelt usage, intoxication, distraction, stupidity or sociopathy. Feel free to provide supporting documentation to the contrary if you can!
 
And, oh, 1 KK per month? You're gonna get FAT!
 
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by kcram HOST
Aug 25, 2004 (5:14 pm)
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(never quite warmed up to the idea of a donut named "Krispy"...)
 
I'm within an hour of NYC (northwest NJ), but I'm definitely not in the burbs... we get annual "when you see a bear" instructions (note: "when", not "if"). The truck mix out here is pretty even between pickups and SUVs. Not many wagons though, because we get the deep white stuff - people either tough it out with their cars or stay home. All the police departments around here have either Explorers, Durangos, Suburbans, or Excursions. Granted, the crews here really know how to plow, as they get plenty of practice.
 
I'd think the Magnum AWD would do pretty well if properly marketed. Families who need more space than a Subie would probably appreciate the higher mpg and easier handling.
 
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Re: [kcram] by rsholland
Aug 25, 2004 (5:22 pm)
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Replying to: kcram (Aug 25, 2004 5:14 pm)

Families who need more space than a Subie would probably appreciate the higher mpg and easier handling.
 
KC, I can buy the more space (passenger space, not sure about cargo space), but not the higher mpg or easier handling. At least not yet, as the AWD Magnum has yet to show its face.
 
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us rural folks by suydam
Aug 25, 2004 (5:28 pm)
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I just had to comment on the gross generalizations about rural folks, pickups, and SUVs, particularly as I just drove around my cousin's farm in his Jeep Grand Cherokee. I don't think SUVs are limited to one locale-- that would hardly explain their popularity everywhere. Rural folks drive a mix of cars, minivans, and SUVs, just like everyone else. Pickups (for everyone, not just us rural folks) are usually a second vehicle. You often don't see as many Japanese or German vehicles in the country just because there are fewer of those dealerships, but even that's changing. Accords and Camrys are quite popular out my way, just like everywhere else you go. And so are Ford Explorers and Jeeps.
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Re: My point has been missed [tom21769] by highender
Aug 25, 2004 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: tom21769 (Aug 24, 2004 6:06 pm)

there are a lot of SUVs that don;t suck gas, are not hard to park and have stability that is very good.
 
I thought the xc90, fx35/45, SRX, X5 etc...would all be good pretty good in terms of performance...
 
I took a xc90 around a corner (on a course on a jetway) at over 35 mph with a 180 deg turn....it did have body roll, but was great on handling..
 
all the rest are even better...
 
the endeavor surprised me....you could put it in a 4 wheel drift , around a corner, at about 40 mph ...
 
The cayenne can go 0-60 in 5.0 sec, 60-0 in 112 ft (which is better than a lot of sport cars) and has antiroll mechanism that adjusts to body tilt in milliseconds, using the air suspension...It can also handle at 0.87 to .88 gs.
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Re: us rural folks [suydam] by highender
Aug 25, 2004 (6:29 pm)
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Replying to: suydam (Aug 25, 2004 5:28 pm)

it's good to bust those stereotypes....
 
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Re: My point has been missed [highender] by tidester HOST
Aug 25, 2004 (7:28 pm)
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Replying to: highender (Aug 25, 2004 6:28 pm)

it did have body roll, but was great on handling..
 
I think those are mutually exclusive.
 
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Re: My point has been missed [tidester] by highender
Aug 25, 2004 (7:56 pm)
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Replying to: tidester (Aug 25, 2004 7:28 pm)

true , to a point...
 
it did have more body roll on the corners than say, a cayenne or endeavor...
 
but it stuck to the pavement, enough so that I could finish taking the corner instead of heading off thru the cones and into the grass...
 
pretty remarkable for a SUV....I know my scirocco, porsche 928, jaguar XJ-12 , maybe even the camry, could not do better....
 
drove the highlander, pilot, accord, and camry at high speed on the Mitsubishi course....
 
some of the sedans really cannot handle , as much as they seem close to the ground with Low center of gravity and less weight....
 
the endeavor was the tops in handling..pilot was second, and highlander was 3rd...
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by twinbladesz
Aug 25, 2004 (9:01 pm)
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I dont know while I was in Missouri for a camping vacation the distribution between SUVs and Pickups was pretty even. The Pickups were towing the 5th wheels while the SUVs had the Travel Trailers. When I took my Explorer to a Ford dealer while there the lot had many more new F150s and Rams then Expeditions, Explorers and Durangos. Most people had one of each in their driveways. For most people its not all about image. But whats useful to them. Will replace my Explorer with more then likely a Durango if the dealer gives my parents a good deal on the Durango they are looking at. My wife is also interested in the 300 which is the only car I'd ever drive. Other then that I'd always buy an SUV.
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explorer by nitromax
Aug 26, 2004 (6:22 am)
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oh, i forgot. it's all about the data, not it's relevance. i ate a dozen kk's, so i'm a glutton. it took me a year.
 
That's 10 more than I've eaten!.....you GLUTTON!!
 

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