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tidester by li_sailor
Aug 25, 2004 (12:18 pm)
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You must be thinking of the big cities...Buffalo, Rochester, Binghamton...them city folks are full of pree-tenshuns The rural folks, farmers, etc., don't own SUVs, generally.
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by ateixeira
Aug 25, 2004 (12:44 pm)
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Just throw a cooler in the bed and let the kids sit on that.
 
I agree that SUVs are primarily a suburban phenomenon. Pickups mostly rural. Cars, urban. From my experience, at least.
 
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16.4 or 16.5... by explorerx4
Aug 25, 2004 (3:40 pm)
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the report does not indicate how many occupants were involved, ;i.e. 2 occupants 2 deaths or 5 occupants 2 deaths), and does not assign fault or a major factor in the accident and how it relates to 16.5 or 16.4.
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Re: 16.4 or 16.5... [explorerx4] by tidester HOST
Aug 25, 2004 (3:57 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Aug 25, 2004 3:40 pm)

Fault is irrelevant but 16.5 is still 16.5 whether the average occupancy was 2 or 5.
 
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tides... by explorerx4
Aug 25, 2004 (4:20 pm)
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oh, i forgot. it's all about the data, not it's relevance. i ate a dozen kk's, so i'm a glutton. it took me a year.
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Re: tides... [explorerx4] by tidester HOST
Aug 25, 2004 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Aug 25, 2004 4:20 pm)

It would seem to me that the "causes" are not particularly relevant here since there is nothing to support the notion of significant disparity between SUVs and cars with respect to seatbelt usage, intoxication, distraction, stupidity or sociopathy. Feel free to provide supporting documentation to the contrary if you can!
 
And, oh, 1 KK per month? You're gonna get FAT!
 
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by kcram HOST
Aug 25, 2004 (5:14 pm)
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(never quite warmed up to the idea of a donut named "Krispy"...)
 
I'm within an hour of NYC (northwest NJ), but I'm definitely not in the burbs... we get annual "when you see a bear" instructions (note: "when", not "if"). The truck mix out here is pretty even between pickups and SUVs. Not many wagons though, because we get the deep white stuff - people either tough it out with their cars or stay home. All the police departments around here have either Explorers, Durangos, Suburbans, or Excursions. Granted, the crews here really know how to plow, as they get plenty of practice.
 
I'd think the Magnum AWD would do pretty well if properly marketed. Families who need more space than a Subie would probably appreciate the higher mpg and easier handling.
 
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Re: [kcram] by rsholland
Aug 25, 2004 (5:22 pm)
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Replying to: kcram (Aug 25, 2004 5:14 pm)

Families who need more space than a Subie would probably appreciate the higher mpg and easier handling.
 
KC, I can buy the more space (passenger space, not sure about cargo space), but not the higher mpg or easier handling. At least not yet, as the AWD Magnum has yet to show its face.
 
Bob
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us rural folks by suydam
Aug 25, 2004 (5:28 pm)
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I just had to comment on the gross generalizations about rural folks, pickups, and SUVs, particularly as I just drove around my cousin's farm in his Jeep Grand Cherokee. I don't think SUVs are limited to one locale-- that would hardly explain their popularity everywhere. Rural folks drive a mix of cars, minivans, and SUVs, just like everyone else. Pickups (for everyone, not just us rural folks) are usually a second vehicle. You often don't see as many Japanese or German vehicles in the country just because there are fewer of those dealerships, but even that's changing. Accords and Camrys are quite popular out my way, just like everywhere else you go. And so are Ford Explorers and Jeeps.
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Re: My point has been missed [tom21769] by highender
Aug 25, 2004 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: tom21769 (Aug 24, 2004 6:06 pm)

there are a lot of SUVs that don;t suck gas, are not hard to park and have stability that is very good.
 
I thought the xc90, fx35/45, SRX, X5 etc...would all be good pretty good in terms of performance...
 
I took a xc90 around a corner (on a course on a jetway) at over 35 mph with a 180 deg turn....it did have body roll, but was great on handling..
 
all the rest are even better...
 
the endeavor surprised me....you could put it in a 4 wheel drift , around a corner, at about 40 mph ...
 
The cayenne can go 0-60 in 5.0 sec, 60-0 in 112 ft (which is better than a lot of sport cars) and has antiroll mechanism that adjusts to body tilt in milliseconds, using the air suspension...It can also handle at 0.87 to .88 gs.

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