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#3154 of 3236 Re: SPIII [autokritiker]
Mar 30, 2011 (9:07 am)
Thank you for the reply, autokritiker.
Our Kia Optima is 2006 (earlier model, probably similar to 2004-2005 Sonata) with 4 sp auto transmission.
At first I wanted to buy Redline D4 and use it for drain/refill. On their website they say it is also compatible with SPIII. Not on the bottles though.
But Kia/Hyundai say only SPIII should be used. What is it that makes this ATF so special? Can it be because it includes extra additives to protect the transmission or its viscosity is different?
I do not want to take a risk by using D4, however if SPIII is just a repackaged general-use ATF I would rather use a better quality fluid.
What is the size of the drain plug? What tools do I need for the service?
I have another unrelated question about the car. Last few months it started being a little noisier than it was when we first got it. I use only synthetic oil like M1 5W-30 or Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 with good quality filters. But I can hear clattering or clacking rather from under the hood when the window is down. Similar to a diesel.I hope I am not exagerating it.
Last fall the dealer had to replace the oxygen sensor because of check engine light. The light has not come on since then.
I have not had the timing belt replaced yet. Other accessory belt was a little squeaky during winter if that is relevant.
Mar 30, 2011 (5:29 pm)
In my Sonata I used SPIII until last year at the 60K mile mark. I did a drain and fill at 20K miles and at 40K miles. At 60K miles I switched over to Valvoline Maxlife which lists all the Hyundai specs including the newest SPIV spec. After 14K miles so far with the Maxlife I can say it is definitely an improvement over the SPIII. The transmission shifts smoother now, the slight 4th gear whine I had before is now 99% gone, and the fluid still looks brand new. Also Maxlife is fully synthetic while SPIII is only semi synthetic.
A 1" socket fits the drain bolt on my 2007 Sonata (5 speed AT). A 25mm might even fit a little better, although the 1" works fine without deforming the bolt head. Not sure if the older 4 speed AT has the same size drain bolt but I assume they would be the same size. I think a drain and fill on yours would be about 4 or 4.5 quarts.
About the noise, it can be caused by colder weather or by using a non OEM oil filter. Stick with the OEM filter. They are good quality. Also synthetic oils are usually thinner than conventional oils of the same weight, which can make an engine run noisier. Maybe try a High Mileage oil which are usually a little thicker. That might make it run a little quieter. I really wouldn't worry about the noise unless it becomes loud. Check your oil level every couple weeks to make sure the oil level stays near the full mark.
#3156 of 3236 Re: SPIII [autokritiker]
Apr 01, 2011 (7:28 pm)
By 'replace the crush washer' do you mean buying a new crush washer, autokritiker? Or just putting the same one back on? If you meant getting a new one, what is the size of it and where can I get it from?
Apr 01, 2011 (9:52 pm)
You need to remove the old crush washer and install a new one on the drain bolt. If you try to re-use the old one, it might not seal properly. I can't remember the specs. Just go to the parts counter at your local Hyundai dealer and tell them you need a crush washer for the transmission drain bolt. They should have plenty in stock. That's where I got mine. I think they were 50 or 60 cents each.
#3158 of 3236 Re: 2000 GLS Fuel pump [drimple]
May 29, 2011 (4:22 pm)
now either you have a really honest Jiffy Lube in Wisconsin, or you have a really high priced oil change at the dealer, either that or I'll bet you have never been to Jiffy Lube....
#3159 of 3236 Front Bushings?
Jun 03, 2011 (8:30 am)
I have a 2006 Sonata with 62,000 miles on it. Recently I had been hearing a noticible light 'thumping' noise when making a slight left turn only. The noise would stop if you applied the brake. A friend suggested I might have a loose brake caliber (I did take it to the dealer for new brakes about 6 months ago). Well, today the dealer tells me that the front bushings were wearing (hence the noise). Would be > $600 with labor to replace both sides. I winced at the price, so as an alternative he offered to 'lube them' to see if the noise would go away and I could get away with waiting a while. I asked if there was any safety concern, but he said no. So I opted for the greasing (spent < 100), the noise is indeed gone. As I was leaving, the service rep's comment was 'who knows - this may solve your problem for good because you do not drive a lot'. Was my leg getting pulled today?
#3160 of 3236 Re: Front Bushings? [tram54]
Jun 03, 2011 (11:00 am)
Similar story with my 2006 Sonata: a local mechanic suggested all front bushings or lower control arms replacement on both sides due to the thumping noise. At other mechanic's advice, I have lubricated the bushings myself with WD-40 after placing the car over a sidewalk curb. So far, two months later no thumping.
#3161 of 3236 Brake Pads and brake flush
Jul 12, 2011 (6:20 pm)
I have 2007 sonata GLS with 48000 miles on it. I took it for oil change and the dealer said that my rear brakes are bad and they are (1-2)/32. He quoted 260.00 for that and told me to do brake flush for another 130.00.
Do the prices look good? Also I need to do the 45,000 mile service and it would cost around 400.00. Is the price fine?
#3162 of 3236 Re: Brake Pads and brake flush [vjy]
Jul 12, 2011 (7:01 pm)
45k service seems high, especially since the oil service is already done... there isn't that much to do at the 15k intervals. Make sure the dealer isn't adding unnecessary services--check the maintenance schedule that came with the car. You could save some money by doing the easy stuff yourself, e.g. air filter and cabin filter replacements. These can be purchased at auto parts stores and replaced in a few minutes--directions are in the owner's manual.
#3163 of 3236 Re: Brake Pads and brake flush [vjy]
Jul 13, 2011 (4:31 am)
I just had my brakes done at 81k miles on my 2007 Sonata. They were the originals.
They had a special at $200 per axle, and they just sent me a coupon for $169 per axle (after I had already done it ). So to me $260 sounds high. $130 for flush sounds about right, but I wouldn't do it until you need to change the front pads too. Or you are feeling a lot of give in your brake pedal.
P.S. I'm surprised your fronts aren't worn out as well.