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Re: 2004 SONATA 2.4-ELECTRICAL ISSUES ^OO^ [joe_momma_foo] by 8babies1dog
Oct 17, 2009 (4:09 pm)
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Replying to: joe_momma_foo (Oct 15, 2009 1:12 pm)

I am not a mechanic, but we now own a 2009 SE V6 w/5at, this may or may not be a answer to your problem, but if your car has the auto trans I would get them to check it next. For quite a few years now most auto trans or electronically controlled not like older types that have actual linkage to the transmission. I don't
think engine monitoring system detects transmission faults it may just say check
engine or may not say anything. The shiftronic system has a valve in it to help stop
high RPM surge on quick acceleration, sounds kind of dumb but it is how this
drivetrain is built not to race per say, f/ fuel economy also reason f/ 5 speed auto
w/o/d.It is equipped w/ manuel side for driver to control RPM for faster acceleration
if wanted control valve don't effect 1st and second gear in manual side also manual
side is geared lower (hi tech stuff). Manual side will actually help MPG if used for
city driving stop and go traffic, you up and down shift yourself or it will down shift on
it's own all the way down to 1st if stopped, you have to up shift in this mode it won't
on it's own till near red line. Do this in traffic it stops the auto side from kicking in
and out of gears all the time. Explains valve somewhat. Now back to possible fix
of problem if valve don't function properly for some reason I think it could cause a
mixed signal to engine and may bog engine down w/ to much throttle, all this is
linked together w/ new CVVT system. In the early sixties I was kind of a jackleg
mechanic you could still work on your own car, no electronic ignition or computer
aboard. But they were equipped w/ torque converters on auto trans and they were
known to bog you engine down at times, not exactly like todays system but cause
and effect sounds similar. I would get with your mechanic just to see what he has
to say about it. Todays technology is going faster than the repair people can keep
up with. If your dealership sells multiple brands of vehicles how can they keep up w/
every little detail of every car they service? The dealership I just bought this new car
from only sells Hyundai and the service manager answered some of my questions
in the blink of a eye, some I knew a little about some I didn't have a clue about. Such as this new version off the 3.3L v6 engine is designed and built at the factory
here in the USA were the Sonata is built along w/ the Santa Fee, only Hyundais
built in the USA as of now. The new High performance engine f/2009 inspired by the
the more sporty SE production plan has a timing CHAIN not a stupid belt that can
break at any time and will probably tear your engine up. No more 60k mile $400.
belt maintenance on this car. Now who's idea was it to put belts in there in the first
place. It wasn't Sonata for sure that was done before they were built, so how can
this fairly new car maker do all this and sell there vehicles for a lot less than their
competition and it has a much better warranty? The new Sonata has added over 1000 new parts in mid season upgrade at little or no price increase. To please their
customers wants. Like I say interesting!!!
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2006 Sonata - High Rev at Start-up by tomk17
Oct 26, 2009 (4:44 am)
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No problems to date with my 06 Sonata LX (3.3 V6) with 56K miles but I have noticed what I think is a rather high engine rev at initial cold start. I even hear lifter tapping for the first 3-4 seconds until some oil gets going in the engine (I use the factory weight of 5-30 and always synthetic oil). I should check for sure but I believe rev range is 2500-3000 RPM.
 
Just wondering if everyone else sees this and if there could be a long term issue.
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Re: 2006 Sonata - High Rev at Start-up [tomk17] by coldgl
Oct 26, 2009 (5:12 am)
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Replying to: tomk17 (Oct 26, 2009 4:44 am)

Our Sonata V6 has 18K miles and has done the tapping noise on startup since new. The dealer said the noise was "normal". With oil changes every 3K miles, I have my mechanic add Wynn's oil additive each time as a preventive measure. it doesn't stop the noise but protects engine parts. Engine revs do not seem high to me on startup. Although this is an OK car for the price, the "normal" tapping noise on startup, the suspension thump, the too short front seats, and the way Hyundai treated us on the lack of a trunk lock out system will make us trade for a Chevrolet when the time comes for trade in.
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Re: 2006 Sonata - High Rev at Start-up [coldgl] by targettuning
Oct 26, 2009 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: coldgl (Oct 26, 2009 5:12 am)

The tapping on start up are the valve lifters "pumping up" after an extended shut down time...say overnight. The lifters drain oil back out eventually and until they pump up again (refill with motor oil) they do not have the "hydraulic cushion" oil under pressure provides. While not exactly what one would like to hear on a new-ish car it isn exactly unheard of. Just recently I heard this same start-up tapping on a vehicle parked nearby in a Wal-Mart lot, thought it pretty loud, looked, and it was a Chevy Traverse and had to be nearly new. So, before you rush out and buy a Chevy....start it up a few times on the lot. By the phrase "lack of a trunk lock out system" exactly what do you mean? The little glowing tab that allows someone in the trunk to open it from the inside...handy if you get on the bad side of your local mafia or a way to disable the remote trunk unlock inside the car? Our 1995 Stratus has a disable built onto the trunk lock mechanism. It is a small lever that in the up position disables the interior release (but allows opening with a key) and down allows the interior release to function. I'm fairly sure Hyundai has such a feature, maybe you need to research it a bit.
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Struts/shocks/alignment for 2002 Sonata by crogers1
Oct 27, 2009 (6:36 am)
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I have to have the front and rear struts/shocks replaced. I was going to do it seperately as I did not have the whole $600 to do all at once. The garage told me that if i do that seperately, then I'd have to have the alignment re-done as well. I didn't think that the rear needed to be aligned. Am I missing something ??? Anyone have any idea on this and does $600 sound about right for front, rear and alignment ?????
Thanks
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Re: Struts/shocks/alignment for 2002 Sonata [crogers1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 27, 2009 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: crogers1 (Oct 27, 2009 6:36 am)

It looks like about 2.8 hours labor + parts. It's hard to estimate exactly whether the price is good or not because we don't know the quality of the parts they are installing. But if they are using a kind of shock like KYB, not bad, not great, probably fine for your car---then $600 out the door with an alignment front and rear actually sounds quite reasonable. I see the KYB online for about $65 bucks apiece. So $260 for the shocks, $280 for labor, $60 for alignment, plus tax included? That's pretty good.
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Re: Struts/shocks/alignment for 2002 Sonata [Mr_Shiftright] by crogers1
Oct 27, 2009 (9:36 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 27, 2009 6:55 am)

I believe they are going to use Monroe parts. I know the labor is only $100, because they are running a special install of pay install for one and get 2 installed. And the alignment is 69.99. I didn't think the price was too bad, but it confused me when they said I would need a 2nd alignment if I didn't get both front & rear done at the same time.
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Re: Struts/shocks/alignment for 2002 Sonata [crogers1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 27, 2009 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: crogers1 (Oct 27, 2009 9:36 am)

Oh well yeah, Monroe shocks are not very expensive---so maybe this isn't a good deal after all. You might want to shop around at other stores, and try KYB G2 shocks.
 
The labor rate is good though---but what they're doing is jacking up the price of the parts to make up for it, seems to me. You can get Monroe shocks for $90 a PAIR.
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Parts question by jnichols1
Oct 28, 2009 (2:29 pm)
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Recently I discovered that my 2004 Sonata has brakes, air filter, and other parts that were found in the 2003 model. The 2004 parts do not fit my car. Is this unusual?
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Re: Parts question [jnichols1] by billward
Oct 29, 2009 (4:59 am)
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Replying to: jnichols1 (Oct 28, 2009 2:29 pm)

The 2003, 2004, and 2005 models were almost identical; very, very few changes were made between those years (and as an owner of a 2003 (and a 2009), I can't tell the difference visually between the models). Changes between a 2002 and a 2003 were slightly more significant, as there was a major facelift in 2003; 2005 was a "short run" ala the way the 2010 model will be, where the car was replaced well before the normal end of model year by the 2006 model (the first of the current generation Sonatas).
 
I wouldn't doubt that a 2003 part is identical with a 2004 or 2005 part unless it's VERY specific to the car. However, that's not totally answering your question... of more import, 2005 MY Sonatas (while being a short model year) were available almost until the intro of the 2007 MY Sonatas; Hyundai normally has a signifcant number of cars at the end of each MY that last well into the sales period of the following MY (and during the 2005-2006 switch, it was even more so, as the 2006s were (at least some) manufactured in the US, and thus quickly brought from factory to dealership, while 2005 MY and previous were manufactured solely in Korea, necessitating the proverbial slow boat from China, er, Korea. In addition, it was an overlap of production that year (both being manufactured simulataineously for a month or so, depending on which plant), so new previous MY cars could show up during the current MY sales period. I believe that (though to a lesser extent) until the current dearth of 2009s caused by CARS, that was very common for Hyundai... and as such, the car could easily be a 2003 that was purchased "late", during the 2004 sales period (say, April 2004, 3/4 of the model year late). It would have looked identical to a 2004, but been substantially less expensive due to the "oh, it's a year older" effect (with so little change between those MYs, that's the only true reason for a difference in price). So, are you going on when the car was purchased, or did you check the VIN to verify that it is, in fact, a 2004 and not a 2003? If so, you may find your 2004 is really a 2003. Also check the rocker panel on the driver's door, and see the manufacture date; that would tell you if it's really a 2003.

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