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Re: Fuel filter replacement in 2006 sonata V6. [newowner10] by jkim972
Mar 10, 2009 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: newowner10 (Mar 10, 2009 5:58 am)

what? I didn't even know there was another filter inside the fender... When do I replace that one? is it simple enough for me to do it?
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Manual Trans Sonata - Repeat Clutch Failures Pls Help! by pfine
Mar 10, 2009 (7:42 pm)
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Hi there. I have a 2000 Sonata base 4-cyl with the 5-speed manual transmission I purchased new. (There actually are a handfull of us die-hards out there....). I now have a perplexing, repeat problem with the transmission that I am looking for some help with.
 
About 10 months ago, I got Hyundai to replace the engine block under warranty and they also redid the valve heads because the car had been burning oil. It had actually always burned oil. So at the time they did the work, I also asked and paid to have all the hoses and belts replaced, as well as the clutch, just for good measure while the powertrain was all taken apart. The clutch pressure plate and throw-out bearings were worn so they replaced those too, along with the clutch slave cylinder. The car had about 87,000 miles or so at the time.
 
Soon after the work was done, the car developed a faint rattling noise at idle while in neutral. The noise went away when the clutch was pressed. One dealer then replaced the clutch bearing, but the noise stayed. So, they next said they were going to replace the transmission. I then took it to a dealer closer to my house that offered loaners and they said no, it was actually the [new] clutch causing the noise and not the transmission. So they again pulled it apart and found the [new] clutch was ruined and the flywheel burned up. So they replaced the clutch, bearings, pressure plate, flywheel and starter [new redesigned Hyundai flywheel needs new type starter]. They had no explanation of the cause of the first failure other than likely improper installation by the first dealer.
 
Now, several hundred miles later, the 'new, new' clutch started slipping severly on the highway. Took it back to dealer, they verified the slippage, and are now, today, pulling it apart. Still no answer on what is going on. The Hyundai tech person has come in to consult on the matter.
 
Does anyone have the slightest idea what could be causing this car to eat clutches like this? My shop manual is vague on the subject. The car's original clutch lasted well over 80k miles and these new ones are failing left and right. And no I do NOT abuse/ride the clutch, etc....
 
The car now only has 2,000 miles left on the 10/100 warranty and I am really praying the dealer gets it right this time -- 'cause if I have to pay +$1,500 out of pocket for this at any time in the near future, that pile of money will be going towards something nice and new from General Motors!
 
There is no reason a Hyundai dealer, excuse me, TWO Hyundai dealers, should not be able to accurately and properly install a replacement clutch in any Hyundai model, Sonata or otherwise.
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Re: Spark Plug & Wires ABUSE! [craigbrooks] by de1029
Mar 11, 2009 (6:43 am)
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Replying to: craigbrooks (Feb 20, 2009 9:09 pm)

Well folks...the timing belt snapped on 3.04.09 at 114,600 miles...Went to start car to go to work and it appeared that the battery reacted to the 11 degree overnight temps. Called GEICO and tow guy tried to jump start the car. He uttered those dirty words...It's your timing belt! Can you say the Hyundai Sonata is in the junk yard as of 3.6.09?
Sorry guys, silly me bought a Chevy Cobalt. Four cylinder...I didn't want to spend a lot and I don't want to spend so much in the coming years for maintenance matters. Just hoping haste does not make waste in THIS situation.
I want to thank everyone over the years from 2000 when I bought the Sonata. I received the best advice from all of you. I just want you to know that I did appreciate everything.
No, I was not happy when the Sonata died and I had to get a new car.
I admit I was hedging my bets on buying or fixing...and I do believe I was going to be hit with a new battery, new fan blower motor (heater and A/C) and very probably engine or transmission work...in addition to the sparkplugs which started all this latest questioning.
Again, it's over and I do thank everyone.
I hope I get the same good advice from the Cobalt site!
Joe
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Re: Fuel filter replacement in 2006 sonata V6. [jkim972] by newowner10
Mar 11, 2009 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: jkim972 (Mar 10, 2009 1:18 pm)

It is actually a "Air" filter on my 2009 Sonata. I would doubt this filter would ever need changed unless you do a lot of off roading. It filters the air that goes into the tank as the fuel in used.
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Re: Spark Plug & Wires ABUSE! [de1029] by pfine
Mar 11, 2009 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: de1029 (Mar 11, 2009 6:43 am)

How old was the timing belt that snapped? Did you ask Hyundai for warranty help with the situation? If that was the original belt, no wonder it broke. That got a lot of miles.
 
Did you get the new XFE Cobalt with the 37 mpg? How is the new car?
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Re: Manual Trans Sonata - Repeat Clutch Failures Pls Help! [pfine] by pfine
Mar 11, 2009 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: pfine (Mar 10, 2009 7:42 pm)

Ok responding to my own post -- I got the car back today. The Hyundai dealer replaced the clutch disc, the bearings, the pressure plate, and the mechanic "removed the check valve from the slave cylinder."
 
The mechanic said the Hyundai district tech rep told him to remove the check valve and he just did what he was told. He didn't know why it was done or for what reason. He just did it.
 
Does anyone at all out there have an idea because I don't know how doing this would be considered proper. Does Hyundai have a design defect with their clutch slave cylinders necessitating taking out the check valve to prevent clutch damage?????? Does this sound like a plausible reason why the car was eating up multiple clutches?
 
This is indeed a mystery.
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Re: Fuel filter replacement in 2006 sonata V6. [newowner10] by craigbrooks
Mar 11, 2009 (6:57 pm)
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Replying to: newowner10 (Mar 11, 2009 8:40 am)

Actually I believe it is an EPA required filter in case you overfill the tank to collect vapors that may escape. Roading or not...I'll never check or replace mine. BTW I never fill past the first shut off on the nozzle. Nor do I offroad unless you count the ranch roads to the backwoods.
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news tires and camber adjusting ball joint in 2006 sonata by ktpmm5
Mar 13, 2009 (11:36 am)
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I've got a question for everyone. I've got a 2006 Sonata, V4, that the kids drive to school and back. 28,000 miles.
 
 Today my son took it in for an oil change, and they ended up changing two tires, doing front-end alignment and installing a "camber adjusting ball joint". First of all, isn't 28K miles a bit early for new tires? Should I be concerned that something else is wrong? And what the heck is a "camber adjusting ball joint"???
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Engine noise at start up Hyndai Sonata 2006 by talathi
Mar 13, 2009 (2:25 pm)
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I bought 06 Hyundai from a Honda dealer and used their oil change service. It turns out they put the oil filter cap wrong and the oil seemed to leak into the engine. The engine seemed to make noise at the start up, so I took it to Hyundai Dealer to get it checked. The Hyundai dealer suggested that there might be some engine damage.He showed me the picture of the oil leak around the filter and also informed me that there were metal parts floating in the oil pan.
 
However when I took the vehicle back to original Honda Dealer, he mentioned that it was Timing Tensioner problem which is a known issue with Hyundai. He got it replaced for me from another Hyundai Dealer.
 
However the engine still makes noise when started from cold condition. What are my options? Do I take it back to Honda dealer and get the engine inspected? I am thinking of taking the legal course? Kindly inform
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Re: Engine noise at start up Hyndai Sonata 2006 [talathi] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Mar 14, 2009 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: talathi (Mar 13, 2009 2:25 pm)

Did you measure the amount of oil lost on the dipstick?
 
Does anyone know this?
 
If not, there's no legal case I can see. No evidence.
 
You'd have to lose a considerable amount of oil to cause engine damage, and your oil light would have been on anyway to signify loss of oil pressure. So unless you dropped a few quarts of oil on the ground, I don't see a connection here and the Honda dealer is probably correct and in my eyes, acted appropriately. However I don't know all the facts.
 
If the engine makes a bit of ticking noise for 2-3 minutes and then goes away, no worries.
 
If the noise persists throughout the day, this should be investigated further by the Honda dealer, especially if it didn't do it when you bought the car. But a slight ticking for a few minutes is pretty normal on cold days.

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