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Hello - help with minivans by pcgracie
Jun 08, 2007 (3:14 am)
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Hi. I'm new to the boards and I'd like to get some info comparing the two minivans Odyssey & Sienna. My main issue is that I feel the AWD is important, but anyone at Honda has a reason for why it's not necessary and they are better. Don't know which board would be best for asking such questions. Thanks for the help!
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Re: Hello - help with minivans [pcgracie] by ateixeira
Jun 08, 2007 (8:16 am)
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Replying to: pcgracie (Jun 08, 2007 3:14 am)

If you want AWD, get AWD. Why compromise when you don't have to?
 
The only one left making AWD vans is Toyota. You could also get a used Grand Caravan, though.
 
The AWD Sienna is nice because it comes well equipped from the get-go. Even a base LE AWD model has stability control and 17" alloys, one power door, 6CD, etc.
 
The catch? You cannot get the 8 passenger model with AWD. Also, AWD forces you into run-flat tires, because the driveshaft that goes to the rear axle goes right through where the spare would have been.
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Novice introduction and seeking advice on buying a minivan by sandsmom
Nov 28, 2007 (11:54 am)
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Hi! I'm glad I stumbled on this forum. A recent addition to the family has caused us to think about getting a minivan.
 
We've always bought used import cars (Toyota, Mazda, Hundai) and so you can imagine our reluctance at looking at American/new cars. We are currently considering the Honda Ody, Sienna and the Entourage. 2005+ models.
 
Any suggestions, thoughts and advice would be gladly welcomed.
 
I look forward to reading the other posts as well.
 
Cheers,
sherylann
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Re: Novice introduction and seeking advice on buying a minivan [sandsmom] by ateixeira
Nov 28, 2007 (12:05 pm)
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Replying to: sandsmom (Nov 28, 2007 11:54 am)

First of all, welcome to Edmunds CarSpace.
 
I think you're looking at some nice alternatives.
 
The current Sienna came out in MY2004 (MY=model year). For 2007, it got a bigger engine, 3.5l. I have an 07 and recommend it highly.
 
The Ody is also a good choice. Drive them, the Sienna is a bit quieter and softer, while the Ody handles a bit better. I think you'll develop a preference right away. We opted for the quiet ride of the Toyota, our own preference.
 
You get a lot of value with the Entourage, just make sure you get a good price and that you like it, because resale values are not strong. Otherwise they offer good bang for the buck.
 
There are minivan threads to discuss more specifics, just be ready to hear every opinion that may come. The 2008 Minivan discussion, for instance, has been hotly debated recently.
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Re: Novice introduction and seeking advice on buying a minivan [ateixeira] by sandsmom
Dec 02, 2007 (11:46 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 28, 2007 12:05 pm)

Hello there,
 
I've been reading your insightful posts on this forum with a lot of interest and so we thought we'd take the liberty of reaching out to you for your opinion.
 
Hi, congrats on the new van and hope you are enjoying it.
 
We live in Lake Zurich, IL and just got a quote from a dealer for a 2007 Honda Ody EX-L with DVD - slate green with olive interior. He's asking for 27,900 (cash) or 30,499 with 3.9% financing.
 
For a 2008 Toyota Sienna LE-8 psngr with pkgs FE, AL, QF, CF and RL, silver exterior, for $25,160 plus $58.48 documentation fee, sales tax, registration fee of $143 and county fee of $15. Based on what I've read, this is a pretty good price although the invoice value is $24,865. Your thoughts on the price and this vs. the 07 Ody mentioned above? We intend asking them for the price of an 08 Sienna model with the UL pkg in addition to the pkgs quoted to do an apple-to-apple comparison with the 2007 Ody.
 
As you mentioned in one of your posts, this is not a good time to get an 08 Sienna, hence, the trepidation even though the price seems good.
 
My questions:
1. Is that a good price for the 2007 Ody? Edmunds lists it at $29,190 with a DVD system.
2. Your thoughts on the price for the 2008 Sienna.
3. How does the 2008 Sienna price compare to the 07 Ody mentioned above? We intend asking them for the price of an 08 Sienna model with the UL pkg in addition to the pkgs quoted to do an apple-to-apple comparison with the 2007 Ody.
4. If we get the same pricing for the 07 Ody and the 08 Sienna (Ody - EX-L with DVD and Sienna - LE with pkgs - FE, QF, RL, UL and CF, and if we like the drives for both cars, which would be your recommendation?
5. Lastly,in one of your posts, you mentioned you got an aftermarket dvd system. How much is something like that and what would be the cost (incl. install)?
 
I hope this is not much of a bother - we would really value your input!
 
Cheers,
 
Sherylann
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Re: Novice introduction and seeking advice on buying a minivan [sandsmom] by ateixeira
Dec 03, 2007 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: sandsmom (Dec 02, 2007 11:46 pm)

1. No. People are getting quotes in the $26k range, so that price is high. There's something like a $2000-2500 dealer incentive on those.
 
2. This price is better, but I think you can still beat that. That's a lot of fees they're tacking on, too.
 
3. Ody can be a better deal but I would shop around more, because I think you can knock another grand off Honda's price right now.
 
4. For the same price, get a 2008. It's one model year newer and will boost resale.
 
5. I got a Jensen 12.1" DVD system, fully installed, from Circuit City for $900. That was a special sale, now they're $999. Smaller screens are even less. It's not fully integrated but that was OK with us.
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Re: Novice introduction and seeking advice on buying a minivan [ateixeira] by sandsmom
Dec 07, 2007 (8:32 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 03, 2007 9:18 am)

Hi, thanks so much for taking the time to read through my questions and reply to each of them. I did not have a chance to reply earlier. We test drove both and preferred the handling of the Sienna including the DRL feature. Unfortunately, we can't find an EX-L with RES below 27K and all the Toyota dealers we've spoken too want 25K or more for the LE with package 2. We're leaning towards the
sienna since as you indicated it's an 08 versus the 07 Ody. Thanks again!
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Re: Novice introduction and seeking advice on buying a minivan [sandsmom] by ateixeira
Dec 08, 2007 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: sandsmom (Dec 07, 2007 8:32 pm)

$25k is fair.
 
Try fitzmall.com, last week I saw a 7 passenger model Sienna for $24.9k.
 
Print that out, and ask your dealer to match the price. It's the best I've seen.
 
Good luck no matter what you end up buying.
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Changing Sienna Starter by jpadi1
Jan 11, 2008 (10:12 pm)
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I have 2003 Sienna and I need to change the starter. I feel that I could change the starter granted I can get to it. My question is- where exactly is the starter, there is so much other parts in the way. Is the starter easier to access from the top or bottom and is there a lot of other parts to remove to get to it.

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