Last post on Apr 19, 2007 at 5:05 PM
You are in the Toyota Highlander
What is this discussion about?
Toyota Highlander, GMC Envoy, SUV
Jan 27, 2003 (9:39 pm)
Actually, DON'T go for the Envoy if you plan on trading it in 3 years. Go for the Highlander in that case, because the depreciation will be much better on the Highlander and you will lose a lot more money on the Envoy. As far as Toyota quality and durability, read the message boards here, you will find Toyota owners with problems. Sure they are number one in quality, but they still have their share of defects per XXX number of vehicles. Not trying to knock Toyota, the Highlander was actually our second choice after the Envoy XL. But the GMC just had much more to offer than the Toyota.
#235 of 243 Have driven both
Jan 28, 2003 (2:25 am)
But it is a bizzare comparison. Envoy was smooth but felt large and truck like. HL drove like a car but seemed to have have a harsher ride.
Interior of Envoy was much better. Lower level HL had odd looking silver plastic parts.
Biggest killer on Envoy - Gas mileage.
Worst thing on HL - steering wheel is too close to the dash.
But what do you need? A car with extra height for around town or on the highway - HL might be my choice (except fo r the steering wheel issue). A vehicle for serious foul weather, to go offroad, tow, or haul stuff - Envoy
#236 of 243 I have driven both
Jan 28, 2003 (8:49 am)
If I was going to tow a 5,000 boat, I wouldn't buy either. I would look at the Sequoia, Tahoe, etc...
I did not mean to be offensive and I agree that Toyota, etc..has their fair share of problems,but, the 2000 Envoy that my brother-in-law has, has been in the shop more than he has practically driven it. Alot of fancy electrical gadgets that Toyota did not have back then and yes, improvements have been made,but, SUV's cost so darn much that, it is good advice to check out forums like this, in order to hear the truth from previous owners of these rigs?
If I didn't own a 2002 Limited 4 Runner, I would have chosen either the Sequoia or Yukon/Tahoe!!
But, there again, apples and oranges with usage, gas mileage woes, etc..
Jan 28, 2003 (5:35 pm)
There is little comparison between a Highlander and an Envoy much less an Envoy XL. They are both vehicles that technically are SUV's. It doesn't take long to notice more than a few differences. We bought the Highlander over the Envoy for our needs. It's a very comfortable all season vehicle that will hold it's value for a long time. If you're planning on climbing a mountain or towing anything heavy, don't buy it. I drove all three. The Envoy wasn't bad for a truck, they ruined it with the XL (way too long, but 3 real seats). I don't disagree with calling it a tall station wagon, after all it drives just like a car.
#238 of 243 1989 Chevy Blazers
Oct 09, 2005 (4:51 am)
1)My friend has an 89 Blazer and the back window has broken twice on them once with the arm motor inside so they replaced it now the window(glass) is broke but the window crank arm is working I'm trying to help them find "good" used one...we are from the carlisle,pa area if anyone can help or know where to order a new one cheap..
2)They were also thinking of eliminating the back tailgate and replacing it with a swing out door does anyone know a year,make and model that we can probably swap out.
Any help will be greatly appreciated!!!
#239 of 243 Problem Solved - Trade Envoy Every Two Years
Dec 29, 2005 (7:24 am)
Our Envoy was trouble free until 30K miles: then it started to fall apart. It was very comfortable unlike the uncomfortable Honda Pilot we own now. We long for our Envoy but not its problems. It was the best vehicle we ever owned until it started to fall apart. The ultimate answer could be to buy an Envoy and trade it every two years before the warranty runs out.
#240 of 243 Re: Problem Solved - Trade Envoy Every Two Years [meyervilla]
Jan 30, 2006 (7:22 am)
I solved that problem by purchasing a low deductible 60 month / 90,000 mile GM Protection Plan on my '04 Envoy XL. That is much less expensive than taking the depreciation hit by trading every 2 years or so. So, about the time it is close to paid off and the GMPP is getting ready to run out, it will be time for a new ride for the wife...It may not be a 7 passenger then, maybe not even a SUV. Still have 2-3 years until we plan on having to make that decision.
#241 of 243 why Envoy vs HL thats like apples & cucumbers
Apr 18, 2007 (10:07 am)
Maybe when this discussion started there was a comparison between the 2 well I just bought a 2007 Envoy LST 4WD with the IL6 4.2 291HP engine paid $31,000 I test drove the HL and the 4Runner and gotta tell ya neither one really stack up, the 4R is a better comparison but either one of tyotas have the HP the hauling or towing capabilities the Envoy has, not to mention the superior styling and preformance but if you compare the factor spec's Envoy for the money is the hands down winner
#242 of 243 Re: why Envoy vs HL thats like apples & cucumbers [johnyg]
Apr 19, 2007 (8:47 am)
I wish you well and hope that GM fixed the A pillar wind noise that was on both the Envoys and the SAAB 9X that I drove. Also, the large A-pillar blind spots and the minuscule foot room for the rear passengers were turn-offs for me. As for styling, everyone has their opinion and let's just same that ours aren't the same. Good luck!
#243 of 243 Re: why Envoy vs HL thats like apples & cucumbers [gasman1]
Apr 19, 2007 (5:05 pm)
Toyota = Reliability
GMC = Problems