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Dodge Caravan, Ford Explorer, GMC Envoy, Honda Odyssey, Nissan Pathfinder, Toyota Sienna, SUV, Van
#1831 of 1874 About to find out...
May 17, 2010 (4:25 am)
Whether 'tis nobler to weather the slings and arrows of being a minivan owner, or to take arms against a sea of troubles, and by driving an SUV, end them...
My wife has given the go-ahead to try and sell our 2000 Durango (199K, 2WD, 318, 6-passenger) to attempt to purchase a same generation Chrysler minivan (I found a well-kept '98 T&C with 184K locally, the guy is willing to trade even up).
Our Durango has been an interesting purchase. We bought it from a dealer in Oklahoma on eBay, knowing three things: a) it was a good looking truck inside and out, b) the engine was known to be bad, and c) it was a bank repossession with 172K on it. For $1700 in February 2009, it was a good deal. I went to a junkyard and purchased a 124K mile engine for $600 and paid $550 for my local mechanic to install it. We had a running driving truck with cold AC for the next year. Two problems got fixed, one, the torque converter bolts backed out and our mechanic fixed this for free, and two, the radiator and water pump failed. We had those fixed for about $230 each and it's been great. Now the A/C has a leak at the port where you fill it, and it's a $120 part. So we're looking into the minivan thing, because finding a third row seat to match the interior is driving my wife and I crazy. They're either the wrong color, or the wrong fabric, or the junkyard wants $400+ for the setup.
If nothing else, it will be a learning experience. The last Chrysler van I drove was a taxi in Dallas, a 1999 Grand Voyager with the 3.3L. It was very comfortable to drive and I look forward to that experience with the Chrysler. I'll update here as needed. I know my wife will miss her truck, but I also know she would love to take our kids to see my grandmother for the first time before she passes, and with the 6-passenger Durango, one of us would have to stay home.
#1832 of 1874 Re: About to find out... [occupant1]
May 17, 2010 (11:39 am)
You must have some funny junk-yard stories to tell.
Good luck with the swap.
#1833 of 1874 Re: About to find out... [occupant1]
by steve_ HOST
May 18, 2010 (4:36 pm)
I just did a quickie road trip and saw one car broken down on the side of the road in 3 days. It was an old Caravan/Voyager - it was a short wheel base one like my old '89. It was probably pushing 250,000 miles.
I had a rental Grand Caravan a couple of years back and it drove well. I was happy with the free upgrade.
Oh, I need tires on my current van so we took the Outback. It'll hold everything we need, but the van sure is easier to pack. More comfy too.
#1834 of 1874 press request
by kirstie_h HOST
Jun 03, 2010 (12:42 pm)
A reporter wants to talk with recent buyers of a 6+ seat vehicle. Please respond to predmunds.com by Friday, June 4, 2010 and be sure to include your phone number and the vehicle model you own.
#1835 of 1874 Re: press request [kirstie_h]
Jun 03, 2010 (1:48 pm)
I take it 3 years ago is not "recent"?
#1836 of 1874 Re: press request [ateixeira]
Oct 09, 2010 (5:48 pm)
Hello my husband and I are going to be car shopping in March. We will be buying either his or mine cash . He is getting a 2010 Charger while me the mommmmmmmmmm has to get a SUV or mini van........ Which I don't want a mini van. Currently I have a Armada but bc of the high miles I will be selling it and putting the cost to a new SUV for me. I did look at the 2011 Odyssey (spelling) and I love the look on the outside but honestly don't know. I think I'm gonna get a Honda Pilot. I'll be honest.......... and say I like the look of my Armada a lot better then the Pilot and Odyssey however bc we are coming into some money to buy two new cars I need to stay within a certian price.( One car will be cash probley my husbands ) and I'll put $15,000 down on mine. I want to keep my payments as low as I can and bc of our credit I THINK that is leading me to a Honda Pilot. I wish it was a 2010 or 2011 Armada but the cost difference is just to much for us as the whole goal is to get my car payment down lower then what it is now.
We have to have 8 seats. Cargo is not a big worry as I do shopping when kids are at school etc. We will be going on Vacation next summer however will use the luggage rack for that.
Can anyone give us advice on if it is smarter to buy a 2010 Charger with cash and put $15,000 down on a Pilot or Pay Pilot Cash and say put $10,000 down on the Charger and finance that?
also does anyone know how much they come down on prices if your buying cash? Say the SUV cost $32,000 ( the New Pilot we looked at today) How much do you think they normally come down on it if it's cash? thanks in advance.
A heart broken Armada owner LOL
btw my kids are older kids and fit fine in the Armada.
#1837 of 1874 Re: press request [8enough]
Oct 09, 2010 (5:54 pm)
Also. does anyone know since we won't be buying for 6 months ( when we get the money) how much the price will come down on 2010 models?
#1838 of 1874 Re: press request [8enough]
Oct 11, 2010 (6:30 am)
It won't matter; there won't be any new 2010s left by Spring of 2011.
#1839 of 1874 Re: press request [8enough]
Oct 11, 2010 (4:23 pm)
Paying cash does not result in any price reduction on a vehicle - in fact, it deprives the dealer of another way to make money because they don't get a cut of any financing.
When the time comes, closely examine manufacturer financing incentives. Dodge seems to run zero percent deals frequently, certainly a better way to go than paying cash for a vehicle that will depreciate like a rock. Also, Honda always runs a big President's day promotion in February.
Last thought, unless you really need 4wd, get over that minivan dislike. Feature for feature, they are usually less expensive than an SUV. Further, they drive and ride better, are easier to park, a far more versatile (try hauling 4 x 8 foot sheets of plywood in a Pilot) , and get better mileage than SUVs.
#1840 of 1874 Re: press request [cccompson]
Oct 12, 2010 (9:22 am)
I was about to post the same thing - look at what finance incentives each has when it's time to buy.
Pay cash on the car with more cash back, and finance the car with the more attractive loan rate. Win-win.
The Charger is being updated soon so expect big incentives. The Pilot is also getting long in the tooth.
Another thought - don't buy the Pilot if you don't like it. Lowering the payment won't make you happy if you don't like what you're driving. Get another CPO Armada or something.