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SUV vs Minivans

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Re: minivan or suv?? [maryh3] by ateixeira
Feb 28, 2008 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: maryh3 (Feb 27, 2008 4:21 pm)

True, the Sienna is large, but remember the other models being considered are also large, in some cases longer and more cumbersome than the van:
 
Sienna 201"
Acadia 201.1"
Sequoia 203.9"
Odyssey 202.1"
Terraza 205"
 
The turning circle for the Sienna is much tighter than any big SUV's, in fact it's tighter than the turning circle for my old Forester (which is 2 feet shorter!).
 
For manueverability, the Sienna is a good choice from that list of candidates.
 
The Kia Rondo and Mazda5 are smaller, but may be too small, plus no AWD for either one. Maybe that new Dodge crossover? I forget the name.
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Re: minivan or suv?? [ateixeira] by maryh3
Feb 28, 2008 (1:49 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 28, 2008 9:01 am)

I have side damage thanks to the wheel base!! They just can't seem to get that wide turn down for a while. Up the curb is a common phenomenon when driving with someone under a learner's permit in a minivan.
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Re: minivan or suv?? [maryh3] by ateixeira
Feb 28, 2008 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: maryh3 (Feb 28, 2008 1:49 pm)

Yeah, which van do you have again?
 
A lot of factors affect the turning circle - wheel/tire size for instance. Also, AWD vs. FWD, or 2WD vs. 4WD.
 
It's a good idea to try a U-turn during any test drive to see how manueverable a vehicle is.
 
We test drove an Expedition once and while my wife did love it, she had to get help to park it. We ruled it out right then and there.
 
Thankfully, while the Sienna is still fairly big and wide, the turning radius is very tight. Surprisingly so. You can easily fit a U-turn in an average sized street, even some smaller ones.
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Re: minivan or suv?? [ateixeira] by maryh3
Feb 28, 2008 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 28, 2008 1:57 pm)

A tighter turning radius would exasperate the problem. Even more passenger side door damage due to turning too narrowly. Up over even more curbs when making a right hand turn. Things change a lot when the kids get older.
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Re: minivan or suv?? [maryh3] by hause7
Feb 28, 2008 (5:23 pm)
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Replying to: maryh3 (Feb 28, 2008 3:26 pm)

As a 17 year old i can tell you it is much easier driving our Sienna compared to my aunts Lexus GX 470 or my cousins Mercedes SUV. I like to drive the GX but i can feel how top heavy it is in turns and prefer our Sienna.
 
to me minivans are far more practical than an SUV.
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Re: minivan or suv?? [hause7] by maryh3
Feb 28, 2008 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: hause7 (Feb 28, 2008 5:23 pm)

I think this is one of the better topics we've discovered -- do teenager drivers prefer SUV's or minivans. However, I don't think we are getting a fair sampling here. Of course from mother's point of view the safety is huge. Not sure which are safer SUV's or minivans though. None of my boys think about practicality though.
 
In my family the consensus for the teens is :
 
1. 1995 Taurus SHO -- they fight over who gets this one.
2. 1995 Ford Explorer (no longer have - yes the one that could roll)
3. 2000 Town & Country minivan
4. 2002 BMW (5-something series) Shocked that my kids don't like to drive this. They claim that the the car doesn't "glide". When you take your foot off the accelerator the transmission applies drag and slows it down.
 
 
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Re: minivan or suv?? [maryh3] by ateixeira
Mar 03, 2008 (9:26 am)
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Replying to: maryh3 (Feb 28, 2008 3:26 pm)

I see what you mean.
 
Teens should be trained to make wide turns. Especially when parking.
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Re: minivan or suv?? [ateixeira] by maryh3
Mar 06, 2008 (3:11 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 03, 2008 9:26 am)

Teens should be trained to make wide turns. Especially when parking.
 
 And until they learn, people should use all available resources - like 160,000 mi Chevy
Ventures to effectively equal one of these:
 
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_- - - - cars/top_ten_urban_vehicles_feature/the_beater_feature
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Re: minivan or suv?? [maryh3] by ateixeira
Mar 07, 2008 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: maryh3 (Mar 06, 2008 3:11 pm)

Beaters are awesome! Every family should have one.
 
Makes no sense to give a 16 year old a brand new car. Let them get some experience on a beater instead.
 
The problem is a lot of those beaters are used SUVs that the parents handed down. You just hope the kids drive those behemoths safely. I'd never let my future 16 year old drive something like a Suburban.
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Re: minivan or suv?? [ateixeira] by maryh3
Mar 07, 2008 (3:43 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 07, 2008 9:05 am)

When your kids get that old you will find you are on a double edged sword. You hate to give them something new because chances are high they will smash it and your insurance skyrockets with a new car. OTOH the older cars often don't have the safety features like side air bags that the new ones have. You hate to give them a big SUV like a Suburban because they are harder to handle and they can roll. OTOH there are so many SUV's on the road that if he does get hit and he is in a Civic - the other guy driving the SUV is going to inflict a disproportionate amount of damage to him and the small car. No easy answers here. Sometimes I think giving them the old minivan keeps them from showing off in their muscle car and going fast. May not get the chicks but they will be alive.
 
BTW - I hate to make you jealous but I now have 2 beaters

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