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#6684 of 6928 Break don't work first time in Cold weather
Jan 15, 2011 (6:55 am)
I've posted this in the cold weather section as well before I realized there was a CR-V forum....sorry if thats wrong? But my problem is fairly scary.
I have a 2006 Honda CR-V Ex and we get a lot of freezing rain wet snow here in the east. When it's cold and there's ice or snow the first time I press on the breaks there is very little reaction from the car, i.e. the brakes don't work, if you forget about this it is quite alarming.
My practice now is when I pull out of my driveway I start driving down the street and do a hard break to warm up the breaks. Once I do this the breaks are fine for the rest of the drive. This can't be normal, several times I've been looking for a "soft" place to crash when I hit the breaks again and it stops.
I've mentioned it to the dealer but of course they can't find anything, problem is if I've driven there I've already warmed up the breaks. It usually only happens in the morning but sometimes in the evening if the car has been sitting out in the cold weather for a while.
#6685 of 6928 Re: Break don't work first time in Cold weather [thebignewf]
Jan 15, 2011 (9:57 pm)
My advice - if you are able to do without your CR-V for a while drop it off at the dealer and tell them you aren't taking it back until the problem is fixed. Remind them that this is a huge safety issue and could turn into a liability issue if the problem isn't located / resolved and you are injured as a result. Good luck.
#6686 of 6928 Re: Break don't work first time in Cold weather [thebignewf]
Jan 17, 2011 (12:46 pm)
Hi there- I also have a similar problem with my 2007 CRV (50,000). I'm still shaking from nearly killing a pedestrian yesterday due to my inability to stop at an intersection while on snow. We purchased the car used in May so this is the first winter (Boston) with it. Tires are decent, have been driving 30 yrs & never had problem like this. Braking is fine when road is clear of ice & snow. On snow & ice, after you apply the brakes it makes a loud "crunching" sound while the car skids and the vehicle doesn't stop until about 10-20 feet after application of brakes.
Last week, we took the car to the dealer from whom we bought it who saw no problem but never actually took the car out for a test ride - duh. My husband then brought it to our local mechanic who drove it in a snow-covered cemetery and experienced the scary problem first hand. His impression was that it has something to do with the ABS brakes kicking in too soon? Possibly needing a computer adjustment? Anyone know what might cause this problem or have suggestions?
I think our warranty expired around 36,000 miles. I wonder if the car always had this problem but we didn't find out until it snowed. I suppose we have no recourse either? Thanks!
#6687 of 6928 Re: Break don't work first time in Cold weather [carforum1]
Jan 17, 2011 (6:15 pm)
#1 Your tires are probably junk by now and were rated poorly for snow/ice. Check the tire model at tire rack for review. My '08 CR-V Bridgestones were last place out of 35 tires for all seasons.
#2 Buy dedicated snow tires with rims.
You will see the difference.
#3 Replace the All Seasons with high-rated rubber.
#6688 of 6928 Re: Break don't work first time in Cold weather [carforum1]
Jan 17, 2011 (6:22 pm)
Strongly agree with OW. The right tires make all the difference. Don't stint on rubber.
#6689 of 6928 Resetting Oil Life Indicator
Jan 19, 2011 (4:04 pm)
First oil change on this vehicle since I got it. I change my oil every an indicator says 50% regardless of what the manual says.
I have followed the manual and tried at least a dozen times and it still says 50% .
Called the closest dealer 120 km away and he said to try it with the engine off until it starts blinking . Well, that doesn't work and the manual says to have it in the On 11 position . There are six steps to follow in the maual and I have done everyting it says to but cannot get it back to 100.
My previous vehicle was a Chev Uplander van and it was SO easy. Just push and hold a button and it would return to 100%.
Has anyone here had the same problem and can perhaps give some ideas on this. I don't want to have to make an appointment that far out of town and pay a dealer for what should be a very simple process.
I have always changed my own oil and filter in every vehicle I have owned and don't want to start paying someone else to do it just to get it reset.
2007 CR-V , AWD purchased with 22K km Oct 20 , 2010
#6690 of 6928 Re: Break don't work first time in Cold weather [circlew]
Jan 19, 2011 (11:09 pm)
Thanks for the input - guess you car buffs know your stuff! Brought car back to dealer who said the problem was the tires. Now have 4 new Blizzak snow tires and am $600 poorer. Will have to wait till Friday's snow storm to see if this really fixes the problem - although I did make it home on rain slicked roads this afternoon without hitting anyone.
I still don't understand the whole thing. Having survived 3 teenagers numerous $hitbox cars as well as my own, we've only used snow tires once (on an old volvo wagon that came with them). We've had accords, camrys, corollas, jeep, windstar, grand caravan and NEVER had a problem braking with "All weather tires." A couple of these cars had >200,000 miles on them. Snow tires are a pain - they have to be changed and stored. What's the best all weather tire? Anyone know? Thanks again.
#6691 of 6928 Re: Break don't work first time in Cold weather [jimbres]
Jan 19, 2011 (11:16 pm)
Thanks for the advice. Got $600 worth of new snow tires today - have yet to test them out on snow (rain washed away a lot of the snow today). Not happy though - other tires only had 15,000 miles on them. The dealer must have put really crappy tires on the car when I bought it (I have to investigate that). The "old" tires are sitting in the car waiting for me to make room for them in my basement:) Thanks again.
#6692 of 6928 Re: Break don't work first time in Cold weather [carforum1]
Jan 20, 2011 (6:29 am)
What's the best all weather tire?
Check Tire rack and surveys for All-Season Tires. I'll check and post later.
I have the Kuhmo's.
#6693 of 6928 Re: Break don't work first time in Cold weather [circlew]
Jan 20, 2011 (6:41 am)
All-Season Tire Survey:
Looks like the answer to you question is Michelin LTX M/S2. Should stick like glue in snow and rain and save the winter tire change.
Probably $200 x4 installed. Now, you can shop based on dry season so do not need the top-rated rubber in winter since you went for the snows.
I went with 245R17 Kuhmo Road ventures which shaved $50 off per tire and are good enough. Nice in the snow.
I always go up one size for replacements. The CR-V handles fantastic with the extra section width!