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#6325 of 6957 Re: HONDA CRV TIRE WARRANTY QUESTION [coco100]
Aug 17, 2009 (7:55 am)
Unfortunately, my 2005 CR-V had only 33K miles on it when the OEM tires got down to 2/32nds and had to be replaced. I was a little surprised and a little disappointed, but that is the ONLY disappointment I have had with my CR-V. Clearly Honda puts crummy, low-end OEM tires on their CR-Vs, but they make a superb vehicle and, overall, I remain well pleased. Will buy another one later on.
#6326 of 6957 Re: HONDA CRV TIRE WARRANTY QUESTION [circlew]
Aug 17, 2009 (8:41 am)
Want to thank circlew for the tire website. Most valuable and a keeper
#6327 of 6957 Re: HONDA CRV TIRE WARRANTY QUESTION [mcdermott]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Aug 17, 2009 (9:33 am)
33k is pretty good mileage for an OEM tire, by any manufacturer. That's what I got on the OEM tires on my last new car, and that was after ruining/replacing one tire and having a couple of flats.
I'm on my third set of replacement tires for that car, and these last ones are rated for high treadwear. That's fine but the ride is a bit worse and they are so hard, they are awful in the rain (luckily it doesn't rain much here or I would have had to dump them early). The second set of Costco Michelins didn't seem to last long enough, but they performed better. So longer tire life isn't necessarily a virtue.
TireRack has lots of owner reviews - unfortunately lots of them are from brand new owners, but every little bit helps.
#6328 of 6957 Re: HONDA CRV TIRE WARRANTY QUESTION [coco100]
Aug 17, 2009 (10:56 am)
Forget about the dealer as far as tires are concerned.
Tirerrack.com is great for reading reviews of various tires. Someone here recommended a particular Yokohama and it gets good reviews there.
The prices are good but then you have to find someone reputable to mount/balance/etc.
Othewise, I think the best deal going is Costco, though I believe you're limited to just Michelin or BF Goodrich. Last month I got the $70 off special (a sale that repeats every few months) for a set of Michelin's latest, greatest, newest tire: Latitude Tour.
After about 500 miles I know I like them. You can feel them hugging the road and the ride is smoother and quieter than the ?Bridgestone's that came with it new. They tout better gas mileage. (As a cub reporter at a newspaper in the late 70s I did a story on all the gadgets and additives that suddenly came on the market after the oil crunch of that decade. I listed enough of them and their touted gas mileage increases to come up with a car that actually produced its own gasoline.)
I like that Costco hand torques them onto the car. I've had other places put the full 150 pounds or more air-gun pressure on them and.....good luck breaking lugs loose on a rainy night on the side of the road, or on an otherwise pleasant afternoon for that matter.
Costco also uses nitrogen rather than regular air, which keeps the pressure more uniform at various temperatures.
The price includes a good road hazard package.
I think the savings would cover the cost of the $40 Costco membership.
But the price still was a skid-marking $796.56 AFTER the $70 sale discount.
#6329 of 6957 Re: HONDA CRV TIRE WARRANTY QUESTION [terryp1]
Aug 17, 2009 (11:54 am)
Thanks for the input on this one (especially the Kung Fu reference). the website was a good start but I'm still alittle ticked off at having to replace the tires on this vehicle at 19,500. I do love this car but I will buy new next time.
#6330 of 6957 Re: HONDA CRV TIRE WARRANTY QUESTION [coco100]
Aug 18, 2009 (4:39 am)
All the OEM tires are short life span. Don't know why, probably cost factor and the tire manufacturers figure out a way to make a tire 50% cost but looks like 100%. I bet you will get lots more miles by buying the same brand and model from tire companies outside.
#6331 of 6957 Re: HONDA CRV TIRE WARRANTY QUESTION [bigdadi118]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Aug 18, 2009 (7:17 am)
I bet you will get lots more miles by buying the same brand and model from tire companies outside.
I've heard that before and cheapening out on the OEM tire does make a bit of sense.
I guess the tire company figures that the people they make mad with the lousy OEM tires who will never buy that brand again will be off-set by the larger number of tires sold to Honda or whoever. Seems like a dumb long-term business plan though.
I've had some lousy aftermarket tires too - some Remingtons one time that came recommended but didn't last worth a flip. That was back in the early 90's and I'd never buy them again. People have long memories for that stuff.
#6332 of 6957 Re: HONDA CRV TIRE WARRANTY QUESTION [bigdadi118]
Aug 18, 2009 (10:16 am)
"All the OEM tires are short life span. Don't know why, probably cost factor and the tire manufacturers figure out a way to make a tire 50% cost but looks like 100%. I bet you will get lots more miles by buying the same brand and model from tire companies outside. "
My 2003 CRV EX OEM Dualers lasted 43K, about what I would expect. Maybe driving style has something to do with it.
#6333 of 6957 Re: HONDA CRV TIRE WARRANTY QUESTION [stevedebi]
Aug 18, 2009 (11:00 am)
Here's a little tech talk on tire wear ratings.
Uniform Tire Quality Grade (UTQG) Standards
UTQG Treadwear Grades are based on actual road use in which the test tire is run in a vehicle convoy along with standardized Course Monitoring Tires. The vehicle repeatedly runs a prescribed 400-mile test loop in West Texas for a total of 7,200 miles. The vehicle can have its alignment set, air pressure checked and tires rotated every 800 miles. The test tire's and the Monitoring Tire's wear are measured during and at the conclusion of the test. The tire manufacturers then assign a Treadwear Grade based on the observed wear rates. The Course Monitoring Tire is assigned a grade and the test tire receives a grade indicating its relative treadwear. A grade of 100 would indicate that the tire tread would last as long as the test tire, 200 would indicate the tread would last twice as long, 300 would indicate three times as long, etc.
The problem with UTQG Treadwear Grades is that they are open to some interpretation on the part of the tire manufacturer because they are assigned after the tire has only experienced a little treadwear as it runs the 7,200 miles. This means that the tire manufacturers need to extrapolate their raw wear data when they are assigning Treadwear Grades, and that their grades can to some extent reflect how conservative or optimistic their marketing department is. Typically, comparing the Treadwear Grades of tire lines within a single brand is somewhat helpful, while attempting to compare the grades between different brands is not as helpful.
Remember, is you drive only 10K miles per year and your tires are rated for 50K miles, the tire is probably going to degrade after the Year 3 - 4 (from my experience) and safer to change out before the tread life is over. Inspect your tires every year to see if cracks develop which is a sign that the tire is done and should be replaced, REGARDLESS OF MILEAGE LEFT ON THE TREAD. Here is some official info from TireRack.com:
The surface cracks that occasionally appear have been called many things; Weather Checking, Weather Cracking or Ozone Cracking. These small cracks typically develop in the sidewalls or at the base of the tread grooves. Depending on their severity, they may be cosmetic in nature if they don't extend past the rubber's outer surface, or may be a reason to replace the tire if they reach deep into the rubber.
Because all tires are made of rubber, all tires will eventually exhibit some type of cracking condition, usually late in their life. However, this cracking can be accelerated by too much exposure to heat, vehicle exhaust, ozone and sunlight, as well as electric generators and motors (that have armature brushes). For example, a vehicle parked outside instead of in a garage will constantly expose its tires to the rays of the sun, increasing the likelihood of cracking. Additionally, some sidewall cracking has been linked to abrasion from parking against a curb, or the excessive use of tire cleaners/dressings that inadvertently remove some of the tire's anti-oxidants and anti-ozone protection during every cleaning procedure. Interestingly enough, when sun exposure or excessive cleaning is the cause of the small cracks, the sidewall of the tire facing outward will show damage, while the sidewall facing inward is rarely affected.
The anti-aging chemicals used in the rubber compounds are more effective when the tire is "exercised" on a frequent basis. The repeated stretching of the rubber compound actually helps resist cracks forming. The tires used on vehicles that are driven infrequently, or accumulate low annual mileage are more likely to experience cracking because long periods of parking or storage interrupt "working" the rubber. In addition to being an annoyance to show car owners, this condition often frustrates motor home and recreational vehicle owners who only take occasional trips and cannot even park their vehicle in a garage or shaded area. Using tire covers at least minimizes direct exposure to sunlight.
Did I say I am and ex-tire mechanic?
Aug 19, 2009 (4:50 pm)
Have an 04 with about 90 k. when the car is at idle with the AC on, I can hear a slight squeal coming form the engine - my guess it is a belt. Anyone else have this problem. Do not hear it when driving and no performance issue. Is there an AC belt or is it just the regular belt.