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#4882 of 6957 Re: 2003 Honda CRV 4WD Malfunction Indicator Light [crv202]
Nov 08, 2006 (2:06 pm)
The reason that your 1996 Accord was covered was due to a violation of the rules regarding emmisions testing of some 1996 and 1997 Accords. The Feds as a settlement, required Honda to extend the emmisions warranties out to 15 years or 150,000 miles for those Accords.
If you remember as part of that settlement you got a free tune up at 90,000 miles. I just got a letter from Honda reminding me that my 1997 Accord was still covered and that if I had already paid for emissions repairs, to submit the bill for potential reimbursement.
#4883 of 6957 Re: 2003 Honda CRV 4WD Malfunction Indicator Light [crv202]
Nov 08, 2006 (3:14 pm)
Error code P1164 manifested itself early on in most '02s by tripping the CEL. Since you didn't get the CEL then (or did you and they diagnosed something else) I can see why Honda won't cover it. Then again it is a known computer glitch from more than four years ago. I don't think the 02 sensor will fix that code, it is a computer issue. Try again with this info and maybe they will goodwill the repair.
#4885 of 6957 Re: 2003 Honda CRV 4WD Malfunction Indicator Light [crv202]
Nov 08, 2006 (3:22 pm)
Part 1 of your question, I would not ask the dealer to talk to Honda for you. I would suggest that you call Honda customer service yourself. They will assign you a case number and will give you a decision. While they may not have a blanket resolution that the dealer can tell you about, your situation will be judged on it's individual merits.
I'm not sure if you will actually have to replace a sensor but I just replaced the air/fuel sensor (which some folks call the O2 sensor). There is a front and rear sensor. I forgot the code but for all intents it was a preheater function on the front one which went bad. Be prepared for sticker shock since the part alone is $200+ dependent upon the dealer (I found a $50 variance here in St. Louis). I found a Honda dealer on the east coast who mail orders parts and got the cost down to $190 or so without having to pay local sales tax. It was a snap to replace and it took care of the problem.
Since that front sensor has a preheat function (the problem with mine), only buy the Honda unit. Most folks who bought the after market brands found that those replacement sensors do not always talk to the computer correctly and they still end up with a check engine light. Spend the $$ and do it right the first time.
#4886 of 6957 Re: 2003 Honda CRV 4WD Malfunction Indicator Light [crv202]
Nov 09, 2006 (1:07 pm)
Since I had no luck with Honda regarding code 1164,a goodwill repair of an out of warranty 2002 CRV, I went back to AutoZone for another check of codes. This time I no longer had codes 1164 or 1456. I still had codes 1298, 1166, 1167. This makes me believe that I indeed have trouble with my O2 sensor. I am getting close now to installing by myself a new O2 sensor and hope it fixes the MIL (Check Engine Light). From under the car it looks easy to replace. I am thinking of getting a Honda part as opposed to buying a Bosch at AutoZone.
#4887 of 6957 Re: 2003 Honda CRV 4WD Malfunction Indicator Light [crv202]
Nov 09, 2006 (1:28 pm)
Please be sure to inspect the cable (wire) from the unit. Many have been known to become burned or frayed, making the sensor seem to have failed. This is usually near its connection to the unit.
#4888 of 6957 Re: 2003 Honda CRV 4WD Malfunction Indicator Light [crv202]
Nov 09, 2006 (1:38 pm)
I'm not sure what to tell you. I ran into the same issue with code P1164 and ended up replacing the air/fuel sensor. I did the job myself for the price of the part around $250 and the special socket for an additional $10. If the dealer said the computer needed updates then they should be willing to cover under the Federal Emissions warranty which is 7 years or 70,000 miles?. In my case I had to replace the sensor because resetting the computer did not clear.
#4889 of 6957 Re: 2003 Honda CRV 4WD Malfunction Indicator Light [crv202]
Nov 09, 2006 (2:18 pm)
Correct, get the Honda part. The Bosch unit may not interface correctly into the computer. Lots of folks have talked about this over at the Honda CRV site. It's tempting to save a buck but too many have reported that the aftermarket sensors don't work well with the Honda computer.
#4890 of 6957 Re: 2003 Honda CRV 4WD Malfunction Indicator Light [crv202]
Nov 09, 2006 (2:32 pm)
1166 and 1167 deal with the front air/fuel mix sensor. I was getting an 1167 on mine which noted a failure of the heater which is built into the sensor. The 1298 error is the Electrical load detector circuit high voltage error. I guess you go after the front air/fuel mix sensor first, reset the computer and see what you get.