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#359 of 6957 Can I do anything about road noise
Apr 25, 2003 (1:27 pm)
1998 CR-V LX 4wd. 55k miles. Wifes car. Very well taken care of. Driven off paved roads once or twice a year to camp/fish. Mild climate, very seldom snows, occasional ice. No dealer for me....I go to highly regarded local Honda/Acura Specialty shop....Still on original Bstone Deuler ht's
Now that the background is established, here is the question: Will need new rubber in 5k or less...As you may be aware, the CR-V is not a quiet rig at highway speed. This seems to be worse in our state where the highway dept uses largeish aggregate in their paving mix (nearby states that have "blacktop" or "smoother" roads are much better but the thing is still pretty loud). Is there such a thing as a quieter tire? I know Bstone has a technology called "5 degree noise reduction" but I hesitate to spring for unverified bells and whistles. Any ideas? I know it will never whisper like an Oldsmobile but even a 10% noise reduction would be worth a little extra Jang!
#360 of 6957 check out
Apr 25, 2003 (1:33 pm)
After you input your vehicle they'll give you a list of tires as options. Most have customer comments and a satisfaction survey on them and, some will be from CR-V drivers.
Apr 25, 2003 (2:10 pm)
and to lots of other tire sites. I was kinda hoping for some specific suggestions regarding tire make and model from others who have addressed the CR-V road noise problem. I forgot to mention in my original post that a friend swears that upgrading the stock wheels to Alloys will make a difference too. I guess I'd like input on that too since wheels are about a G for decent ones. Thanks for the link though...
Apr 26, 2003 (4:45 am)
Switching from steel wheels to alloys will reduce what is known as "unsprung weight," which should help with performance, but the idea that they also reduce noise is new to me.
As for specific recommendations: I replaced my Bridgeston Dueler H/Ts with Dueler H/Ls 23,000 miles ago and have been very satisfied with every category that matters to me: noise, wet and dry traction and handling. And I can't help but conclude that you must be less demanding on your tires than I am because we have virtually the same mileage on our CR-Vs; my original tires were worn out by 30k-mi!
Apr 26, 2003 (6:07 am)
Alloy wheels helping road noise? Don't think so, but they will make it handle and look better. Before I bought aftermarket, I'd just look for used EX wheels. There should be plenty, as five of them came on each one, and I know of at least one '98 EX thats been totaled. (LOL) If you only buy new, check out college hills honda. I would imagine around $600 for a full set. They have a website.
If the noise really bothers you, I don't think any tire will really make you happy from that standpoint, because the high noise level is mostly from very little sound deadening insulation, in an effort to keep the weight down, on an underpowered vehicle. That said, all tires in the CRV stock size are actually passenger car tires, and not truck tires. On tire rack, concentrate on models that people are putting on sedans like Accords and Camrys. A good Michelin or Bridgestone grand touring all-season tire will probably be your most quiet choice, without any sacrifice in wet or snow. The tradeoff is they are probably $30-40 more than the Bridgestone or BFGoodrich that come on most CRVs.
Sorry for the long post..hope this helps
#364 of 6957 Need some feedback RPM 2003 CRV 5spd (repost)
Apr 26, 2003 (7:37 pm)
Does anybody know the rpm range for a 2003 CRV 5spd manual??? At 65mph the rpm is at 3000. At 75mph the rpm is at 3500, and of course this is in 5th gear. I believe a 2003 with auto transmission at 75mph runs at 2900rpm. It seems as though the 5spd manual transmissions run at about 500 - 600rpm higher than the automatics. Idle rpm is fine at 650 to 750. I also have a 98 Accord with a 5spd and at 75mph the rpm is about 2800. I know the gearing in the transmissions is probably different but I dont know why. Higher rpm translates into poor fuel efficiency. Also if on a long trip or over the course of many years wouldn't higher rpms be a cause for more or sooner wear of various engine components??? I love my CRV but I dont like seeing the rpm so high between 60 and 75 mph.
Apr 27, 2003 (6:32 am)
nycajun: Your observations are all correct. The 5-speed is almost certainly geared towards acceleration above all else. If lower cruising rpms and higher fuel efficiency are high priorities, I would recommend choosing the automatic.
#366 of 6957 Re: posts 362 &363
Apr 28, 2003 (6:36 am)
Thanks folks, I thought the wheel thing might have been BS. I'll probably go with Michelins. Yep Slugline, probably 90% of that 55k is freeway and I rotate and check pressure like the anal retentive geek that I am My goal is at least 200k before the car becomes more trouble than it's worth. Wish me luck
Apr 29, 2003 (11:36 am)
Provost - You might also try purchasing sound dampening material like Dynamat or any of the other brands. They do have a spray-on paste that coats the wheel wells and will supposedly reduce road noise.
I have sheets of Dynamat under the floor and in the doors of my '99 CR-V. It did muffle road noise. However, if I were to do it again, I'd pay more attention to the engine noise (which should not be as big a problem with the new models).
Alloy rims may or may not reduce road noise. It depends on many factors. Changing the size of the rim is one way to reduce road noise, but this is one of those situations where bigger is not always better. Rubber is generally better vibration insulation than metal.
Nycajun - If you don't like the idea of having the engine rev at 3,500 at highway speeds, downshift to 4th and run it at 4,500 rpms. =) Seriously, the high rpms are not a problem. If it helps, Acura uses a version of the same 2.4L block that is good for 7,100 rpms.
#368 of 6957 Rattling and Clunking and Gas Mileage.
Apr 29, 2003 (12:39 pm)
Bought my CRV two months ago, very versatile vehicle, so far like it pretty much. Have noticed that the roof ( I have the EX with the sunroof ) has a persistant rattle on all but the smoothest roads. Thought it might have something to do with the roof not being stable, it's driving me nuts. Also, a clunking sound seems to come from the rear when shifting (auto trans)..am taking it to the dealer tomorrow. Anyone else experience any of this? Lastly, I can only seem to get about 280 miles from a tank (mostly freeway) which is less than on my V6 Accord.