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Sep 12, 2005 (5:41 am)
It has to be remembered that these forums attract people with problems like a magnet.
You find it "hard to believe" that professional honda salespeople haven't heard of this "issue"?
I have sold CRV's since they were introduced in 1997. NEVER ONCE, has this "issue" been brought up (to me) except in these forums!
That's all I'm saying. I'm saying, I don't doubt that some CRV's are affected. Givne my experience, that number must be limited to a very small percentage otherwise I would have heard about this other than in these forums.
I'm not "indignant" at any suggestions, and, no, I HAVEN'T driven any that pulled...sorry. I don't think luck has anything to do with this.
There are a few five speeds out there...not very popular so you might want to think of resale down the road...just a suggestion.
I do wish you well!
Sep 12, 2005 (7:48 am)
Maybe this will get a chuckle or two and relieve some of the pttr stress around here....I am now awaiting an 06 model which some have felt will not have the pttr problem. I doubt it because I do not think they will redesign a vehicle that is being replaced with in a year - new 07 redesign is coming. I too am concerned a pttr because my wife complained of the problem (before I knew there was such a thing) when she test drove an 05. I sympathize with the folks whose dealers (and Honda) are saying this is normal. I have NEVER experienced anything like this except for the time I had a bad tire. A cocky friend suggested this tact; I doubt anyone would have the guts to try it but it did make me chuckle. Arrive at the lot with your affected V and your spouse in your second car. Get the offending dealer rep, tech or manager in your OTHER vehicle. Pull up perpendicular to one of the rows of new cars on the lot….pull within 3 feet of the car noses or rears. Start to drive, accelerate with your hand off the wheel for a few seconds….the assumption is your second car will go straight! Now tell him/her to get in the Honda because you are going to do the exact same test in the V!!! It would be interesting to gauge the reaction!
Seriously, I hope this whole issue is overblown but I am starting to doubt it!
#3452 of 6957 Re: pttr suggestion.... [andrelaplume]
Sep 12, 2005 (10:19 am)
In your example, that's torque steer, not PTTR.
#3453 of 6957 Re: pttr suggestion.... [andrelaplume]
Sep 12, 2005 (12:20 pm)
I am now awaiting an 06 model which some have felt will not have the pttr problem. I doubt it because I do not think they will redesign a vehicle that is being replaced with in a year - new 07 redesign is coming.
PTTR has been a problem with a few CR-Vs since the 1st Gen model, even the redesign of the CR-V in 2002 for the 2nd Gen didn't eliminate the problem.
I wouldn't hold your breath on the 3rd Gen CR-Vs not having PTTR issues, either.
#3454 of 6957 Re: pttr suggestion.... [theracoon]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Sep 12, 2005 (1:31 pm)
I just got that.... lol....
Give me 2-3 years, and I'll catch on to just about everything....
#3455 of 6957 2002 Air Conditioner
Sep 12, 2005 (2:52 pm)
Today my air conditioner on my 2002 CR-V quit working. There was no noise, but I see what looks like oil on the bottom of the fan housing and below the compressor. Now only hot air is comming out of the vents. From what I have read on this forum, Honda is assisting in repairing in some cases Please tell me what procedure to follow so that I am able to receive help from them.
#3456 of 6957 Re: 2002 Air Conditioner failure [crvjoe]
Sep 12, 2005 (6:28 pm)
Appears your compressor has failed-some folks have reported their's exploded. There is oil mixed with the refrigerant and that is apparently what you see.
Call American Honda Motor Co customer service 800-999-1009-address and phone # in front of you Warranty Info booklet. They will take your info and then someone else will call you back and tell you car is out of warranty- tell them you want them to pay for a/c repairs- about $2000. You will have to go to dealer for diagnosis/estimate. American Honda paid for my estimate. Depending on the mileage on the car it has been reported in this forum that they have have paid 100% to 33% One member with about 40,000 miles reported 100% reimbursement. Mine was a little under 70,000 and they paid 50%. You have to stay cool but be persistent. You will get some double talk-(they say no problem with air conditioner compressors and you cannot believe what you read on the internet)- but your negotiating skills apparently determine what you are finally paid. Stress your loyalty to Honda. All CRV owners are not treated equally. epm1
#3457 of 6957 Re: pttr [krn3]
Sep 12, 2005 (6:37 pm)
krn: If you read my last few posts you will see that I have described torque steer, and I realize that the pull to the right is NOT torque steer. In fact, that was one of the main points of my post. I don't see how a salesperson can consider themselves a "professional" at what they do and know so little about the cars they sell. Many of them will tell you that they have never heard of the pull to the right issue or that you are mistaken and confused about torque steer, when in fact they are simply either ignorant or dishonest. They will say anything to get you to buy a car today. Then they wonder why people equate buying a new car with going to the dentist. In fact, most people would probably prefer a root canal to visiting a car dealer. I personally don't mind the process, but I am still amazed that these folks who sit around all day smoking and drinking coffee while waiting for their next mark to show up don't spend a little time reading car magazines or internet forums to actually learn a little about the cars they sell. Pretty sad when I had to show the salesperson where the spare tire was in the Ody.
Sorry to hear that you are having so many problems with your new CR-V.
#3458 of 6957 Re: pttr [isellhondas]
Sep 12, 2005 (6:58 pm)
Granted, people are more inclined to complain on these forums, because they want to vent their frustration and maybe even get some help with a problem with their significant investment. That doesn't mean that their issues aren't valid, even if they are the only one who has the problem.
Yes I do find it hard to believe that professional salespeople can't spend some of their downtime (waiting for their next mark to pull up) to do some research and learn some more about the products they sell and the industry they work in. Pretty sad if you ask me. I had to show on salesperson where the spare tire was on the Ody when I test drove the 2004 model. I've had them tell me they have never heard of the engine fire issue with the CR-V. What kind of credibility does that lend them? Not much in my mind.
I've only driven 2 CR-Vs and they both pulled hard, so the number can't be as small as you would like to imply. I'd love to drive ONE that DIDN'T pull. I'm still waiting for my nearest dealer to email me when he has a manual that doesn't pull on the lot. Haven't heard from him but I am patiently waiting.
Actually, they are all 5 speeds now, but I know you meant the manual 5 speed. I realize that some folks won't buy a manual, but I prefer them, and I am buying the vehicle for me, not the next guy. What is disappointing is that the manual actually has a slightly lower fuel mileage rating than the auto, but again I am willing to give up that one MPG for the pleasure of shifting the gears myself.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
#3459 of 6957 Re: pttr [tcasboy]
Sep 13, 2005 (4:29 am)
I hope to buy a CR-V by the end of this month, but only if I can find ONE that has a manual tranny and doesn't pull to the right.
Good luck finding one with a manual. There are only a handfull of them Someone on the "other" board reported a deale rin CO having 4-5 of 2004-2005 CR-V manuals. All new.