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617 messages, Last post on Nov 05, 2008 at 2:00 PM
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Some weeks it works. Honest. Steve, Host |
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My local dealer is not moving. I will probably drive down to Fitz this Saturday and buy as per your suggestion. Could you please tell me more details on: 1. Is the internet delivered price on Fitzautomall the final price or is ther more room? 'coz the site gives a price of 17298 for Impreza 2.5TS auto and 18340 for OB Sports Auto. Is the difference with what you mentioned due to 2004 vs. 2003? 2. Sun roof. Where can I get it installed and how? 3. I hope there is no issue in getting my services and warranty at any of the local dealers in Richmond if I buy from Fitz. Thanks once again. BTW when is the next Subaru discussion? ak |
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Bob, you and juice are more experienced with Fitzmall pricing schemes, so riddle me this: Fitz shows "Delivered Internet Price", "Delivered Value Price", invoice and MSRP for all the cars in stock. Looking specifically at their Forester inventory, I see that the "Delivered Internet Price" and "Delivered Value Price" is below invoice for all models except the XT. For XTs their "Delivered Internet Price" is below invoice but their "Delivered Value Price" is above invoice. Any ideas as to why the discrepancy? Ed |
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The Value Price includes 3 free oil changes (and a bit extra), 1 free service per year for the first 3 years, basically. It also includes a free service loaner during that time. It's about $300 for the privilege. If you are price shopping just look at the Internet Price, which you can walk-in and get even if you do not have internet access. To answer those questions: 1) no, there is no room to haggle, the experience is stress-free, they focus on getting you the car and options you like. Prices are good IMO. Their fee is $49, compare that to $300 at some stealers (oops, dealers). 2) Near the Rockville location is Adler & Mandell Auto Upholstery, they are an ASC approved vendor. For $900 or so they installed our Legacy's ASC Model 750 roof. They basically fit the biggest moonroof they can in your car for that price. Call 411, ask for Adler & Mandell in Rockville, MD, they are listed. 3) You can service from any Subie dealer, they make profits from service, not sales, so they'll be glad to take you. If you'd feel better having a reference, e-mail me (it's in my profile) and I'll put you in touch with my salesman. He does all the VIP deals for that dealership. He sold us a Legacy, my dad an Outback, and my sister a Forester, kept us loyal by following just by one simple rule: being honest. -juice |
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The cheapest Fitz price does not include a loaner when your car is in for service, whereas the other price does (I think?). Am I correct on that? Bob |
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Next chat is Thursday evening at 9 ET. Look for the chat link at the top of any Subaru specific discussion, and it'll be linked on the left sidebar all day Thursdays. Steve, Host |
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Correct Bob, that was the other benefit. Note that if you buy a Subaru Gold Extended Warranty you are guaranteed a loaner. -juice |
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and, in my books, it is the closest competition for the Forester right now. It actually looks like the RAV4 might have a bit more feature-wise than the Forester, interior-wise, with the MP3 stereo, as well as the VDC system for traction. "Full time 4 wheel drive"? Are they going the Subaru route? Still that rear tire shell/no bumper/swinging tailgate bizarreness, though. I need some expert thoughts, some not-so-expert thoughts, and perhaps some sort of exorcism as I move that much closer to a purchase. |
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is still only 1500 pounds (I picked up a brochure yesterday). The Forester's towing is 2000/2400 (auto/manual), but yes, the upgrades on the new Rav4 are much welcomed, and it is definitely a more worthy competitor for the Forester. Bob |
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It's getting a 2.4l, so power will be in line with the CR-V and the non-turbo Forester. That's a good start. VSC and Navigation will be options, even turn signals in the mirrors. This stuff is starting to trickle down, which is good. Loaded prices might get a little scary, we'll see. -juice |
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