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#51 of 617 with all this talk by nippononly Jan 07, 2003 (7:21 am)
of Subie's wonderful new upcoming powertrains, I wonder if Toyota will ever add any power to the RAV, which quite frankly could use a little?   It seems to me that size-wise these two are each other's only direct competition, and Forester never feels like it is straining on the highway the way RAV occasionally does.   If they could even just shove the Camry's current 4-cyl in the RAV, that would give it another 10 hp and 20 lb-ft.
#52 of 617 n o by suvshopper4 Jan 07, 2003 (11:20 am)
I think Toyota might bore/stroke the 2.0 a little for the next incarnation. Plus whatever tech advances in the next year or so could be added in.   But I think the Camry's 4 is too big, and would upset the balance of the RAV.
#53 of 617 by ateixeira Jan 13, 2003 (9:43 am)
Yeah, gotta keep it light. Maybe they could do some VVTi magic.   Subaru has VVT in the JDM models, they call it AVCS. We're still waiting for it to arrive on US models.   -juice
#54 of 617 RAV4 vs. Subaru Impreza 2.5T by ak4net2 Aug 27, 2003 (5:32 am)
Slightly off the topic but this seemed like the best place:   I am looking to buy a new RAV4 (2003) or a Subaru Impreza 2.5T (2004) within 1 week.   Please advise. My criteria are: should have good pick-up/ power, good internal comfort, has to be automatic, OK-looks, milage and safety. Both I and my wife need to drive. Need not go off-road and rare snow here in Richmond. Therefore I am wondering if I really need AWD for FWD is OK. I may also indulge in a sun-roof but may need a aftermarket one for Subaru. I have got quotes of ~21000 for RAV4 and ~20000 for Subaru.   Please do advise. Thanks
#55 of 617 I think you mean Impreza 2.5TS :) by rsholland Aug 27, 2003 (5:43 am)
The Impreza should be quicker (bigger engine with more HP & torque), and will certainly handle better than the Rav4. It will also pull better when fully loaded (again, more torque). Also, the Impreza, being a car, is subject to more stringent crash standards than the Rav4.   The Rav4 will certainly accomodate more stuff inside.   As to the AWD, you will find it also much better on rain-slick roads too. Don't just think of it as a snow benefit. AWD (TS or Rav4) works for you year-round.   Bob
#56 of 617 by ateixeira Aug 27, 2003 (6:44 am)
I'm surprised you're not comparing the RAV4 to a Forester, but I digress...   With automatic, no replacement for displacment, the 2.5l will have an edge over the 2.0l carrying a boxier shape. The trade-off is less room inside, mostly height (for headroom and tall cargo).   With AWD, the TS should be more fuel efficient. You can get a FWD RAV4, that would be close.   FWIW, you can do a LOT better than $20k for a TS. Drive 2 hours north to fitzmall.com, they have TS wagons for $16,341. That $5 grand will pay for gas for a decade.   Better yet, get the better equipped Outback Sport, those are $17,170 at the same dealer. You get 16" alloys and a bunch more features, it's a bargain. That still saves you $4 grand.   BTW, those prices include freight. Our family has purchased 4 Subarus from that dealer, so I can tell you those prices are legit.   -juice
#57 of 617 Juice is right by rsholland Aug 27, 2003 (9:02 am)
Drive north to White Flint, MD; a suburb of DC, to FitzMall to check prices. Their White Flint store sells Subarus. If you drive another 20 minutes more up I-270, to their Gathersburg store, they sell both Subarus and Toyotas. Here's the link:   http://www.fitzgeraldautomall.com/   Bob
#58 of 617 Great tip! by ak4net2 Aug 29, 2003 (9:27 am)
Thanks Bob and Juice..   Actually I was adding the S/Roof, a cassette+CD deck instead of just CD and all tags, titles, taxes to the $20K , but the link you have given still works out at around $1K less   Thanks a lot..I have queried Fitz and will simultaneously push my local dealer..   The reason I am not looking at Forester is b'coz I want to stay within $20-21K. Your point abt. O/B sport is great...but I was not able to justify to myself why to pay $1K more (only diff seems to be harder suspension and fog lights. I did not really need the harder suspension) and kinda liked the body colored bumbers in the TS..   Anything I am missing between the TS and O/B? Amit
#59 of 617 by ateixeira Aug 29, 2003 (10:02 am)
Let's see, I have a 2002 buyer's guide, per them it says: cruise, outside temp gauge, floor mats, cargo tray, fogs, spoiler, roof rack, and the suspensions and 16" alloys. Seems like a bargain for a grand, IMO.   Here are some more tips - remember you can buy the moonroof seperately. In fact, we have Adler & Mandell install a powered one for us, in our Legacy. It's an ASC 750 and is pretty big, 17"x30". One touch open/close, even programmable to close when you remove the key. We love it. It was $900.   Finally, for the radio, consider E-Baying a WRX take-off 6CD changer + Cassette. They go for about $150 nowadays, that's cheap. It's very easy to install, in fact I've done TWO of them myself, one in our Forester and another in our Legacy. I can do it in under one hour, and the harness plugs right in. Our Subaru Crew will help you with install tips, it's cake.   You can also find some in the NASIOC classifieds. They are plentiful, seriously.   So, for $1050 plus that Outback Sport, you're golden. You will really enjoy the Subaru community, FWIW, I really do. We have a weekly chat, the only one on Edmunds, SoA presence here too.   -juice
#60 of 617 About that weekly chat... by dcm61 Aug 29, 2003 (12:01 pm)
Never mind (as Emily Littella (sp?) of SNL fame).   DaveM

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