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#1 of 617 Subaru Forester vs. Toyota RAV4 -- Which would you chose?
Jul 16, 2001 (3:23 pm)
In the past 23 years I have owned just two cars, both hatchbacks, a '78 Corolla for 189,000+ miles and currently a '90 Prizm now at 207,000+ miles. I intend to buy a new car before the next New England winter. I have narrowed it down to the Forester or RAV4. In the test drive I thought the Forester had better acceleration, a major concern since my commute entails entering the 70 mph highway traffic from a stop. Both have good reliability and safety ratings ... neither has the fuel efficiency I currently have ... and on other aspects they seem to be evenly split. If I'm going to spend $20,000+ I want to make a good decision. What advice can you give me?
#2 of 617 Tough choice...
Jul 16, 2001 (4:00 pm)
They're both good, as you know.
The Forester "is" a car, so it does meet all the car safety and crash requirements. The Rav4 is considered a multi-purpose vehicle, which is not required to meet those tougher car standards. For example, the rear bumper of the Rav4 would never pass the car bumper test. Its rear bumper is really a joke. Actually the rear mounted spare tire is the bumper, and when that gets hit, expect huge rear end damage and repair costs.
I would think the Forester, because it has a larger engine, is better able to deal with full loads better than the Rav4.
I like the "looks" of the Rav4 better, but the Forester "works" better, IMO.
For what it's worth, there will be an all-new Forester arriving here next February or March.
Jul 16, 2001 (6:19 pm)
The Forester. I felt it drove better than the RAV4 or the CRV. It also felt more solid IMO. Have 25,000 miles on our 01 S and have not regretted the decision for a minute.
Jul 19, 2001 (6:42 am)
Karen: I drove both way back when they came out and chose the Forester.
The RAV4 seemed a bit small and didn't have enough pep, but other than that I liked it. At the time the warranty was 3/36, though now it's longer, and the new one also has more power. Still no rear bumper, so if you chose it just make sure to buy the accessory bumper to have some protection.
But I have no regrets, the Forester has been great. I'm averaging over 25mpg overall, and it's been on the beach, farm, and a few orchards. I have used the roof rack extensively, and I could not live without it. I've also towed and hauled pretty big payloads.
It's never let me down in 3 years and 39k miles. In fact, it's very likely that our next car with be another Subaru. If the WRX were a little bigger, the wife would own one now. Guess I have to wait for a Legacy turbo.
Jul 23, 2001 (7:52 am)
kecc: I bought the '01 RAV4, and have no regrets.
I find the power adequate - not great, but adequate, and cruising 70 mph is easy and quiet. The larger Forester engine would probably be better from standing starts.
If you are going to have adults riding in the back seats, be sure to carefully check out both vehicles on this score.
NHTSA rollover tests are not yet in for the RAV. My fingers are crossed.
Both manufacturers are above average for durability, reliability, resale value, etc.
Mileage: I'm getting 26.8 mpUSg, 50/50 suburbs/hwy, with auto trans.
Almost 9,000 miles, and no problems to date.
I doubt you would go wrong with either choice.
#6 of 617 NHTSA Rollover results - '01 RAV
Jul 24, 2001 (10:40 am)
Update on my post #5:
I just checked their site again- NHTSA has rated the '01 RAV4 at 3 stars (both FWD and 4WD) for the rollover test, the same as the Forester and many other SUV's. None were rated higher, a few were lower.
www.nhtsa.dot.gov, then look for 'rollover resistance ratings' then 'rated vehicle details'.
I have now uncrossed my fingers.
#7 of 617 rollover test.. hardly
Jul 27, 2001 (10:32 pm)
that rollover test is a calculation, not any dyanmic examination of a vehicles resistance (or lack thereof) to rolling over in every day driving. useless IMO.
#8 of 617 alpha01 - better?
Jul 28, 2001 (2:58 am)
Do you know of a better rollover test, one you consider to be accurate?
Jul 28, 2001 (9:41 am)
Actually, it's not just a calculation. They put the vehicles on a ramp and then incline them until two wheels tip off the ground.
It is just a static measurement, and I agree a dynamic one would be far more useful.
#10 of 617 Rollover Tests ...
Jul 29, 2001 (6:50 pm)
For what it's worth...Recently conducted my own "unofficial" stability test on both the RAV4 and the Forester. Had fully expected to buy the RAV4 til I tried gentle, on-street swerving during the test drive...felt a definite, somewhat unnerving rocking motion. The 2001 model did better than the 1999. Tried the same thing in the Forester and it felt solid.