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Re: 2010 Elantra Touring [bpizzuti] by fushigi
Aug 16, 2009 (1:21 pm)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Aug 16, 2009 10:09 am)

Well, the 2.4 in the Sonata gets a combined 25MPG while the 2.0 in the Elantra has a combined of 28MPG. Considering the Sonata is around 600 pounds heavier, stuffing the 2.4 in the Elantra would probably incur a 1 or, at most, 2MPG penalty for almost 40HP more. Some people would take that trade-off.
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Re: 2010 Elantra Touring [fushigi] by backy
Aug 16, 2009 (1:39 pm)
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Replying to: fushigi (Aug 16, 2009 1:21 pm)

We can get an idea of what the new 2.0L and the 2.4L would do EPA-wise in the Elantra from looking at the Forte, which is about the same size as the Elantra. The Forte's EPA ratings are 25/34 for either the 5MT or 4AT on the 2.0, and 27/36 with the 5AT and the "fuel economy package". The 2.4L gets 22/32 with the 6MT, the only tranny available with the 2.4L. Interestingly, that is exactly the same EPA rating as the Sonata gets with the 2.4L and 5AT (it gets 21/32 with the 5MT).
 
So depending on driving style and pattern, and the drivetrain, it could be anywhere from a 2 mpg to 5 mpg difference between the 2.0 and 2.4, or around 10-20%. While you get more power with the 2.4L, the current Elantra engine is plenty peppy for me, so I expect the new 2.0L with over 150 hp would be just fine power-wise. If I want power, I could get a Sonata V6 or Genesis coupe or something like that.
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Re: 2010 Elantra Touring [fushigi] by bpizzuti
Aug 16, 2009 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: fushigi (Aug 16, 2009 1:21 pm)

I wouldn't, considering the 'Combined' rating has zero meaning for me. I commute 100 miles a day round-trip. I care about the "highway" rating, period (I drive maybe 10% non-highway maximum). And that's where the big difference is...5 MPG is much more significant a difference.
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Re: 2010 Elantra Touring [backy] by billsbuddie
Aug 16, 2009 (3:48 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 16, 2009 9:33 am)

That 5 speed A/T may give some additional MPG but I sure found all of the downshifting irritating when I drove a Sonata. I liked the 4 speed on the Touring much better.
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Re: 2010 Elantra Touring [billsbuddie] by bpizzuti
Aug 16, 2009 (4:16 pm)
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Replying to: billsbuddie (Aug 16, 2009 3:48 pm)

I dunno, I'm thinking I could use the extra cog. Every once in a while the Touring seems to be reluctant to downshift...either that or 3rd gear isn't geared quite right. I know sometimes when I'm entering a highway I have to get it down to 2nd because it's not really accelerating from 35-40 MPH.
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Re: 2010 Elantra Touring [billsbuddie] by backy
Aug 16, 2009 (5:29 pm)
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Replying to: billsbuddie (Aug 16, 2009 3:48 pm)

I've driven the 5AT in the Sonata (and similar unit in the Optima) multiple times and didn't notice a problem with frequent downshifting. I did notice really low revs on the highway, though. The 4AT is fine for around-town driving, but the revs get a little up there on the highway.
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Just got a quote on a 2009 Elantra GLS... by robnessmonster
Aug 17, 2009 (11:03 am)
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Hey, everybody. I've been a lurker on this forum ever since I've been in the market for an Elantra and have really enjoyed all the information you all continue to share.
 
Well, after much haggling, I finally got a quote from a dealer here in Texas and would really like your opinion on it. Here are the details for the unit...
 
2009 Elantra GLS
-automatic transmission
-A/C with Popular Equipment Package
-Sun Roof
-Carpeted Floor Mats
-Mud Guards
 
...for a quoted price of $14,250 plus TT&L. I don't have a lot of money to spend on a vehicle right now, so I'm trying to get the best deal I possibly can. If this is indeed a good deal and my initial research would lead me to believe it is, the only thing from keeping me from pulling the trigger are the safety features/upgrades on a SE. Unfortunately, I have not been able to negotiate a good price for a SE, as all the local dealers want over $15,000 for a standard one.
 
Anyway, so what do you all think. Is this a fair deal or should I wait for the 2010 Elantras to arrive so I can negotiate a better deal on a 09 Elantra at that time. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide me with.
 
-Robert
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Re: Just got a quote on a 2009 Elantra GLS... [robnessmonster] by zodiac711
Aug 17, 2009 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: robnessmonster (Aug 17, 2009 11:03 am)

Robert,
 
Provided that the price quoted (a) isn't including a cash for clunkers (or CARS) discount, and provided that (b) the TTL fee's from the dealer are just that, as per your state's DMV (and not some inflated dealer mark-up BS), I would say it's a very good deal. Of course, pricing can vary by region -- how does it stack up against the Edmund's TMV?
 
As far as waiting to negotiate an even better price: Are you wanting to take advantage of the CARS program? If you wait, there is always the risk that it won't be around later. If however you aren't wanting to take advantage of it, I suspect that once the well dry's up (a few months thereafter), there will be some good deals to be had... Not as good as the government giving an additional $4,500 off, but still better than what the manufacturer/dealer is currently giving.
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Re: Just got a quote on a 2009 Elantra GLS... [robnessmonster] by joem854
Aug 17, 2009 (12:58 pm)
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Replying to: robnessmonster (Aug 17, 2009 11:03 am)

Rob, that's actually a very good deal. The MSRP on the car you quoted should be $18,670 and the invoice should be $17,967. That means you're getting quoted a price that's $1,717 below invoice ($3,717 if you include the $2,000 manufacturer's rebate, although the $1,717 number is what you should go with since everyone gets the $2,000 off). And the Edmunds TMV on that car is $18,323 before the $2,000 rebate, which means you're getting the car for $2,073 below Edmunds TMV price.
 
To be honest, it doesn't make much sense to me. With the increase in demand from cash for clunkers (even though you're not participating), it's become more difficult to get good prices. Many people are having to fight to get Elantras for even a few hundred below invoice. Yet the price you're talking about would have been considered excellent even several months ago when demand was at its lowest.
 
Something else that doesn't make sense is that you're being quoted $750 more for a standard SE. A standard SE equipped with mudguards and floor mats like your GLS has an MSRP of $18,720 and an invoice of $17,954. These numbers are right in line with the GLS with sunroof you mentioned so the dealer should be willing to part with it for a similar price.
 
As to your question about waiting for the 2010 Elantras to come out to try and get an even better price on the 09.... I'm not sure what to tell you. Conventional wisdom is that prices on the previous year's models do drop as they try and close them out. However, with inventory levels being lower it means that sometimes you're not able to get the car with the options and color combination you might prefer. And frankly, given how outstanding the current price you're being offered is, I'm not really sure just how much you might save by waiting. Perhaps someone else might have a better notion of the maximum amount it might be possible to save on an 09 by waiting for the 2010s to come out.
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Re: Just got a quote on a 2009 Elantra GLS... [zodiac711] by robnessmonster
Aug 17, 2009 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: zodiac711 (Aug 17, 2009 12:42 pm)

Thanks for taking the time to give your advice, Zodiac! I plan to deal on a car pretty soon so I really appreciate the timely advice.
 
As for the GLS I'm dealing on, Edmunds is showing me a TMV of $16,323 for this particular vehicle so the offer seems pretty reasonable. Here's my dillema though...
 
I do hope to take advantage of the CARS program (price quoted does NOT include the 4500 would-be discount), but I also hope to take advantage of the price break I would receive when the new 2010 Elantras start arriving. From what I've read, I believe they should be on lots in about a month or so. Thing is I'm not sure if the CARS program will still be in effect at that time or if hyundai will be offering the $2,000 rebate as well.
 
So when do you think is the best time to deal? Jump in now or wait one more month for a better discount? I'm hesitant to pull the trigger on the offer I have now because I keep thinking that the 2010 arrival will help me get a 2009 SE in my price range. And I'm the type of person who keeps a car for 5-10 years, so I'm just really trying to think things through and make the best decision I possibly can.
 
Thanks in advance for any and all input you all can provide!
 
Edit: Thanks for the input, Joe! Allow me to clarify - after a lot of haggling on my end, getting a standard SE would cost be between $14,998 and $15,977. Since I can't seem to find a good deal on a SE (all throughout Texas at least), I'm starting to really think if I should just forgo all of the SE extras and get a loaded GLS for $14,250 (before Cars rebate, before t/t/l). By the way, prices definitely seemed to be a lot better before the CARS program went into effect. Anyway, thanks for your advice and any pointers that can help me making the right deal!

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