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Re: Elantra SE Fairfield, CT [joegiant]
by backy
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Jul 21, 2009 (2:47 pm)
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Replying to: joegiant (Jul 21, 2009 1:00 pm)
This isn't rocket science. The retailer pays a fee to Visa when a customer uses the card. For the average purchase, that's no big deal and the retailer has built the fee into their pricing structure. But if you go to a car dealer and negotiate down to a rock bottom price, then expect the dealer to fork over a big chunk of change to Visa in fees, are you surprised if they say, "no, thanks"? I'm not. In fact, if a dealer gladly takes a Visa card for the full purchase price of a car, I'd wonder if I really did get that great a deal on the car!
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Re: Elantra SE Fairfield, CT [backy]
by joegiant
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Jul 22, 2009 (2:24 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 21, 2009 2:47 pm)
backy, I think you just inadvertently stumbled onto something absolutely brilliant as it relates to car negotiations that up 'til now have not even been considered. Pull out Visa card..or AMEX...I don't care which,and measure the degree of jump you get outta the guy or gal on the other side of the desk and paper signing time. Might be an excellent indicator as to just how good your deal really is...or is NOT! Should they launch and bang head on ceiling, you know you're in the sweet spot. Not even a flinch and those boys are high-fiving in the backroom. Something in between and you need to "think about it" some more. Excellent strategy!!!
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Re: Elantra SE Fairfield, CT [backy]
by marlenelin
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Jul 22, 2009 (9:45 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 21, 2009 2:47 pm)
The dealers whom I have bought cars from who take credit cards, usually have a limit of $4,000 on the cardm abd want the rest in a check.
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Price on Elantra SE
by greatlakesjr
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Jul 22, 2009 (11:33 am)
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I have not yet driven in an Elantra yet but am impressed with what I perceive to be a pretty good value for the car vs. other sedans. I got an online quote from a dealer (Michigan) for an SE w/auto trans. (no premium package) for $15,950 which presumably includes dest. charge but not tax, title or license. I assume I have some wriggle room at this point plus I have a "clunker" (old Plymouth Gr. Voyager) that could net me another $4,500 as it reads an EPA mileage of 18 and the Elantra is at 28 which is right on the 10mpg threshold I'd need.
Any thoughts? Thank you.
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Re: Price on Elantra SE [greatlakesjr]
by joegiant
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Jul 22, 2009 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: greatlakesjr (Jul 22, 2009 11:33 am)
Without even bringing the clunker trade into the picture, I'd definitely agree that you have some wiggle room. When you get to the low 14's ( which includes freight & dealer fees, not taxes/tags/title etc.) I think you are nearing a deal. In the next several days we'll be able to tell ya one way or the other as to the truthfulness to the numbers I've been quoted on the same exact car you are currently looking at.
Mid-Atlantic area for the quotes btw.
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2009 Elantra Se for 11k OTD
by jackas11
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Jul 22, 2009 (3:55 pm)
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I have a firm quote in DFW area for an Elantra SE of 11k OTD. I did this using a cash for clunkers trade ( 1996 Thunderbird worth $500.00 ). No other dealer in the DFW area would touch it. I even have a "guest proposal" (written breakdown of purchase proposal).
I took this "guest proposal" into another dealer that promised to beat any quote by $500.00. They balked and I filed a complaint with the BBB.
I'll go down this Friday to pick-up my RARE natural khaki 2009 Elantra SE with gray interior, silver pinstripes, floor mats and mud guards .
It took me a lot of work and, in some cases, a little shamelessness, but I got her done.
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Huh??
by bpizzuti
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Jul 22, 2009 (5:11 pm)
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How are you guys getting these deals? I'm in NY state and none of the dealers will budge below invoice minus rebates. I'm looking at grabbing a demo with 5k miles on it just to cut the price.
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Re: Huh?? [bpizzuti]
by backy
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Jul 22, 2009 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jul 22, 2009 5:11 pm)
Well, depending on the MSRP of the car in the previous case (e.g. maybe it was a stick), the rebates applied (might have been more than the $2000 rebate), and taxes/fees, that price might not have been too far below invoice before rebates and CARS cash. That's why I really appreciate it when folks provide details on their deal.
In your case, you might venture outside NY a bit (maybe just to NJ) to get some quotes, see if you can do better than invoice before rebates. Then use those quotes as leverage in NY, or just go buy the car in NJ.
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Re: Huh?? [backy]
by jackas11
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Jul 22, 2009 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 22, 2009 5:34 pm)
It was an auto. The taxes were .0625 and all License and fees were $189.00. Some dealers wanted $250.00 for advertising and high dealer prep fees.
I hope any info I provide is beneficial (I think I provided a fair amount of detail) as I, like the other gent in DFW that purchased a GLS for 10,900, had little else to go on. Oh and it only had 26 miles on it and had been on the lot less than 60 days.
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Re: 2009 Elantra Se for 11k OTD [jackas11]
by joegiant
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Jul 23, 2009 (2:58 am)
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Replying to: jackas11 (Jul 22, 2009 3:55 pm)
That is the EXACT quote I have at the moment going into the weekend...jack'. Hyundai Elantra SE auto with mats and mud guards. After $4500 trade, after all the rig-ah-mah-roll paperwork to pay the various government agencies for the right to drive on the Great American Highway, eleven thousand dollars...actually a lil' less by a couple bucks but I'm rounding. All on my VISA card if they'll "let" me.
PS If that number surprises ya, there's actually one or two cheaper but I don't like the color combinations of those cars (Exterior & Interior).
PSS backy, I caved on the auto vs. manual debate with my wife after reading MANY of your comments on the various boards. If sitting in traffic (and it is getting worse by the day!!!), why not the automatic??? Makes sense.
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