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Hyundai Elantra, Hatchback, Sedan
#2994 of 4451 Elantra SE Fairfield, CT
Jul 18, 2009 (8:50 pm)
This is my first time buying a new car. I"m buying a new car cause my current car qualifies for the CARS program.
I see other people are paying a lot less than the number I got from dealers around my area but I'm also seeing that around here, southern CT, the prices are much higher as well as the dealer fees.
for example the this is what I have gotten from a dealer
- Invoice Price of 17020 for ELantra 2009 SE PZEV
Bluetooth Hands-Free Phone System $292
Carpeted Floor Mats $76
Mud Guards $68
Carpet Cargo $64
- Ads Fees $250 ( which I'll try to have them removed)
- Destination fee 650 ( which I'll try to have them lowered)
Add all that and it will be 18420
Deduct 2000 Cash Back
Deduct 4500 CARS program
no including Tax and Plates.
What do you guys think?
Edit: I wanted to add that there are not many SE around the area, let alone Hyundai dealers.
#2995 of 4451 Re: GLS with Auto, Popular Pkg, Bluetooth, Mats $14300 + TTL [rimoto]
Jul 18, 2009 (9:04 pm)
If ya don't mind my asking, what was the listed MSRP (destination included) on your soon-to-be new car sticker, rimoto? Just curious.
#2996 of 4451 Re: GLS with Auto, Popular Pkg, Bluetooth, Mats $14300 + TTL [joegiant]
Jul 19, 2009 (3:25 am)
>>If ya don't mind my asking, what was the listed MSRP (destination included) on your soon-to-be new car sticker, rimoto? Just curious.
#2997 of 4451 $1.49 Gas - Would someone please interpret?
Jul 19, 2009 (3:59 am)
This could potentially reduce price paid by $400 assuming 12,000 miles driven, 30 mpg, and $1 saved per gallon in first 12 months.
When I purchased my vehicle yesterday, the dealer didn't say anything about this promo and I forgot to ask so I'm still going to haggle to get this.
The promo mentions: "For each model where a Rebate and Gasoline Offer applies, in lieu of the Gasoline Offer, customer can increase the rebate offered by adding $1000 to the rebate amount for the vehicle".
I don't know if the promo means an additional $1000 rebate can be received in addition to the exisiting $2000 rebate.
Hyundai Assurance Gas Lock
#2998 of 4451 Re: $1.49 Gas - Would someone please interpret? [rimoto]
Jul 19, 2009 (9:07 am)
I think this page will answer your questions:
It's clear that if you take the $1.49 gas offer, it is in lieu of $1000 of rebates. You don't get the full rebate AND $1.49 a gallon gas. Also, it notes that the maximum number of gallons for the Elantra under this offer is 430. So gas would have to average close to $5.00 a gallon over the next year (compared to about $2.50 today) for you to make out better financially with the gas offer vs. the full rebate.
#2999 of 4451 Re: Elantra SE Fairfield, CT [perucho]
Jul 19, 2009 (9:16 am)
Since you are not too far from NJ or even the DC area, I recommend you call dealers there and get some quotes. You can use the quotes as leverage with your local dealers, and if they don't budge you can decide whether it's worth it to drive out of state to buy your car. Dealers like Fitzmall for example publish their best price on the Internet for all to see, so it's easy to use those prices as leverage if they are better than what you can get locally.
You can try to negotiate the advertising fees, but some dealers don't haggle on those. I don't think you'll have much luck negotiating on the destination charge--that is a direct cost to the dealer. You would have better luck negotiating on the full price of the car. Just ask the dealer what their best price is before any rebates or the CARS program, and before tax and plates (watch out though for high "documentation fees" that some dealers use to pad their profits). The dealer may give some on their holdback or there may be some direct manufacturer-to-dealer incentives. Also, dealers will often give a lot on accessories like mats and mud guards. Do you really think those pieces of plastic (mud guards) cost $68?
#3000 of 4451 Re: $1.49 Gas - Would someone please interpret? [backy]
Jul 19, 2009 (1:47 pm)
backy, thanks for this response.
Since neither dealer I was at yesterday mentioned this additional "gaslock" rebate, I'll be interested to know if anyone has gotten this rebate yet.
This seems like a perfect storm of rebates ($3000 for elantra) along with the Cash for Clunkers.
However, it seems like the dealer I purchased from may be trying to keep this gaslock rebate for themself.
Not sure though as I haven't taken delivery or given a deposit yet. I'll probably get laughed at, but I'm going to ask for the additional $1000 gas rebate tomorrow before paying the deposit.
#3001 of 4451 Re: $1.49 Gas - Would someone please interpret? [rimoto]
Jul 19, 2009 (1:56 pm)
Please re-read my post. The gas deal is NOT an "additional" rebate. It is INSTEAD OF a portion of the manufacturer-to-buyer rebate of $2000. So if you go for the gas deal, you get only a $1000 rebate, not $2000. And it is really not a "$1000 gas rebate." The only way it would be worth at least $1000 is if the average price of gas during the next year was over $3.80 (note error in my previous post). And that's assuming you'd use at least 430 gallons of gas in the coming year.
Maybe the dealer didn't bother to mention the gas deal because he knows it's not as good a deal as just taking the full $2000 rebate. Or because you asked for the $2000 rebate (?), so the gas deal would not be applicable.
#3002 of 4451 Re: Elantra SE Fairfield, CT [backy]
Jul 20, 2009 (5:58 am)
thanks Backy for replying. I was thinking I could always buy floor mats on the local auto shop but I don't know about the mudguards... If I can buy on my local shop and install it myself then I could do without.
I see the prices at Fizmall are really great but I don't think I could drive all the way there but I"ll try other Hyundai dealers around the CT and NY area. Now I changed my mind and I'm looking for a Touring. We go camping and I think Touring will work better. Now my search is even harder because there are not many Tourings around.
#3003 of 4451 Re: Elantra SE Fairfield, CT [perucho]
Jul 20, 2009 (7:53 am)
Try Towne Hyundai in Denville, NJ. I'm in the northern part of Trumbull and the one way distance to Towne is 100 miles.
They typically have internet pricing below invoice (before any rebates), there is no advertising charge. The price they quote includes destination charge (which as backy said is a cost to the dealer with no mark up). As of a couple months ago their doc fee is $249.
While rebates were different when we bought in Feb. '07, the Sonata we bought from them listed at $22,080. We were out the door (no trade-in) for $18,189 including 6% CT sales tax, all fees
(state & dealer) and registration. Towne is a very high volume dealer and doesn't "play games."