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ok, here is what really happened. i was on my way to work after my lunch and my beater died in the middle of a busy street. i bought it 2 weeks ago! it stopped in the middle of the road right in front of the hyundai/vw dealer. what a coincidence! now let's get a new car! lol my beater was 1990 civic lx wagon. i was hoping that it will last me a 6-7 months before i buy a car that i really wanted, a genesis v8 sedan or something in 35k range. i towed the car to the dealer, and decided to buy the elantra because i was tired of car shopping. before i bought the 20 year old civic, i test drove many cars. new accord, altima 3.5, azera, even slightly used bimmers and audi's. couldn't pull a trigger and i really was burnt out shopping for a car, so i came home with a beater. on top of that we just bought our santa fe 3 weeks ago, so go figure. i really really was tired of looking at cars. when i bought the beater, i was so happy. it was a gamble, but the car was only $500. i have never bought a car so cheap, but i was happy because it ran well, and i was worry free. i bought it from auction, and i enjoyed watching auction for the first time. it was a refreshing experience for me even though i was getting a junk. it was fun while it lasted. that auction guy was somethin. i've never seen a person who speaks so fast! it was a great entertainment. but once it stopped on the road, i didn't want to fix it because that would cost more than the car itself.. so i instantly thought i should buy a cheap but reliable hyundai which was right in front of me. lol i thought i was very smart to buy a reliable car with 10 year warranty. i was shocked how roomy it was when i rented last year, and i do like the swooping curves. unfortunately, i didn't do any research on elantras because my budget 3 weeks ago were over 30k. i reseached camcords, used luxury cars, but not on civics, mazda3's, rabits and etc. if i never knew that i got ripped off by 3k then i would've been the happiest man on the planet. my wife loves the car when i brought home and showed her. we actually like this much better than my wife's previous car, 06 civic lx. but once i found that i gave them $2000-$3000. i felt dirty and used. well, i'm sure i'm gonna move on someday, but i will still try to gather enough info so i can shove it to their faces. they mocked my intelligence by saying 'edmunds are board full of liars.' well, i don't think you guys are liars. why would anybody come here lie about things? why? they collectively laughed at the poster with 13900 OTD price on gls and said to me that they aren't real. they are doing this to make hyundai look bad and so on. i almost puked. i know many people who bought hyundai's 4-5000 below msrp. my fiance(now my wife) almost bought a 06 sonata lx 2 years ago for 18.6k OTD. that's a v6 with leather for godsake. i know hyundai's can be had 4-5000 cheaper than the msrp. i didn't question them when i was buying elantra because they were telling me that my credit score of 611 is so low and my wife is a grad student so we can't get a rebate along with 4.5% shouldn't have played the 'payment game', but paying $277 a month felt so cheap compared to my usual $520 a month 2-3 years ago with my acuras and bmws. i had enough cash to buy the car, but i decided not to because i want to put down at least 25% on the house we are looking to buy next year. i guess they convinced me. i figured it's an 08 so it would get cheaper in summer, but not in april. so i just signed it and bought the car.. well, i'm not gonna stop this fight yet. i want to talk to that manager once again and tell him that he is a liar who would do anything to sell a car. i will gather enough evidence that he is charging way too much for his cars. i don't mind paying 500-1000 more, but paying 3000k more without getting the rebate makes me puke. |
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Replying to: wolverinejoe80 (Apr 23, 2008 7:07 pm) If I were you, I'd go into the store some day and ask to talk with the owner (maybe call first to make an appointment). Then calmly tell your story to the owner, and how his/her salespeople act. And tell the owner that they have lost a customer for life, you will never step foot in that dealership again (including taking all the service work for your two Hyundais elsewhere), and that you will tell your story to as many people as you possibly can and urge them not to do business with that dealership. Then say good-bye and leave, and put it behind you (literally). If you have lots of time on your hands, you could see if the dealership is a member of the Better Business Bureau (many are), and if so file a formal complaint with them. As far as legal action, technically there could be a case for material misrepresentation by an agent (the sales rep or manager), but then you are talking LOTS of time and aggravation (and maybe money), and in the end it's probably unwinnable because it's their word against yours. Also I think when you buy a Hyundai they make you sign something about all disputes will be put to binding arbitration. At least I remember something like that the last time I bought a Hyundai, 4 years ago. P.S. You say you did not get the rebate. Did you not get either the $1000 general rebate or the $500 Hyundai loyalty rebate (because of your Santa Fe)? If not, definitely you need to take that up with the dealership, and with HMA, because that is either a huge mistake or fraud on their part, and needs to be rectified. |
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Replying to: wolverinejoe80 (Apr 23, 2008 7:07 pm) Do you know what interest rate you would could qualify for with a 610 score? Is the loan from hyundai? Perhaps they gave you 2000 there. If there is an actual factory to customer rebate (not dealer incentive), they cannot discriminate and not give it to you. If the 4.9% is in leiu of it then that was it. If not you can get the rebate forms and send them in.(this is rare as it usually isn't not given) if you only left 1500 or 2500 on the table you did downright peachy as a walk in (who are always hi balled and checked to be a payment buyer) if they gave you 600 for a junker you stepped out of thats worth 0 then it may be 2000 off or more. The wife loves the car and you probably got about an average deal for a walk in who accepted the first or second throw, especially if they knew you were de-horsed. The staff didn't kill themselves to give you a deal in the top 20% of deals in the nation and offered no free oil change. You feel dirty and used. Great. This is all a complete joke compared to real estate. Your subsequent home purchase should be primary on your mind. A 25000 down payment and more can disappear immediately or in months with an over-caffenated appraiser (which they all are) and even a market with a slight bit of drop left in it. This is unrelated, but you need it. A bit of insight: 1) Almost all appraisers for practical purposes are idiots 2) Do your own comps. Look up the actual xfer prices on the county recorders website of properties you looked at in the past few months. Look at a lot of homes. 3) Have your own attorney and get it inspected... twice. There are several good books on home buying, go to the library and bone up. The last thing you need to be doing after consumating a 300,000 deal is going to some appraisers office like this dealerships office and saying "but your certified appraisal says my home is worth 300000 but the guy next door's house with more square feet and a huge hot tub has just sold for 260000!" Prepare for unanswered phone calls. Not preaching. Just speaking from experience. You're in the wrong frame of mind. Drive the Hyundai until whenever, then trade it on the $35000 Stutz v8 Wagonmobile you have your eye on. . Good luck --jjf ok, here is what really happened. i was on my way to work after my lunch and my beater died in the middle of a busy street. i bought it 2 weeks ago! it stopped in the middle of the road right in front of the hyundai/vw dealer. what a coincidence! now let's get a new car! lol
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Replying to: wolverinejoe80 (Apr 23, 2008 7:07 pm) At some point, you're going to have to choose to (mentally) let it go, and just enjoy the car. Stewing over it won't do a thing at this point, other than raising your blood pressure and preventing you from enjoying something that you otherwise would. While it certainly is no fun to find out what you did, best to just consider it a lesson learned. Given your apparent level of new car pricing/dealing awareness (by no means an insult; that puts you in the large majority of car buyers), I'd be willing to wager you've left a few grand on the table on every new car you've ever purchased -- the only difference is that this time you found out. Finding out hasn't been fun, as is plain from your posts, but I bet it will save you some serious bucks on every new car you buy from here on out...look at it that way.  And, as the other poster mentioned, use it as a cautionary experience for the upcoming house-buying. You don't want to feel like you got a bad deal on something that costs ten times what a car does. Good luck! |
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Replying to: jfritsch (Apr 24, 2008 4:25 am) It's very common where I live (Twin Cities). Maybe not the case everywhere though. |
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i will remember the day i got ripped off. i'll never forget about it. i'll learn from this mistake and i will never buy a car from a dealer ever again unless i do extensive 2-3 months of research even if was a budget car like elantra. print the edmunds pages out, print out dealers quotes and be prepared. or i will just pay cash to a private party and get a decent used car from now on. my pop did that for last 20 years. dealers make me puke. i'm going to trade this car within next few months for something. i just don't think i can live with it. i don't care if i'm losing money. money isn't even issue here. and you bet i will never go near to that dealer. bunch of douchebags and immoral human beings. when i bought my santa fe 3 weeks ago, there were 2 couple screaming at the one of the financing guy. they were so angry and they screamed and yelled at them for 5 minutes. i thought he was about to punch the guy in his face. i'm not making this up. i was right there watching the whole scene. maybe they found out they got ripped off just like me. lol |
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Replying to: wolverinejoe80 (Apr 24, 2008 8:00 am) |
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Replying to: wolverinejoe80 (Apr 24, 2008 8:00 am) You've gotten lots of good answers, info, and advice, yet you're still ranting. You're acting as reasonable and rational as my 5yo boy does when he's pitching a fit. I'm kind of getting skeptical about the story, too, but at this point it doesn't much matter. You've done your venting, which is all you seem interested in...what more do you want from us? "i don't care if i'm losing money. money isn't even issue here." Uh.. OK. If you say so. However, everything you've written thus far says it's the ONLY issue here.
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Replying to: mort4371 (Apr 24, 2008 9:00 am)
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Replying to: wolverinejoe80 (Apr 24, 2008 9:12 am) Thanks! kyfdx Host-Prices Paid Forums |
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