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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [backy]
by jlflemmons
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Aug 25, 2009 (12:18 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 25, 2009 9:10 am)
Yeah, at 75mph 32 was all the mileage I could get. Ran good at that speed, though. 
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- #3226 of 3303
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [jlflemmons]
by jacktb
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Aug 25, 2009 (1:30 pm)
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Replying to: jlflemmons (Aug 24, 2009 7:08 pm)
Yes. The California 100K interval makes me think this belt will last a decent while past 60k. This is one of the main reasons I am trying to get more real-world data. --Jack
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- #3227 of 3303
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [jacktb]
by backy
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Aug 25, 2009 (3:35 pm)
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Replying to: jacktb (Aug 25, 2009 1:30 pm)
This is not directly applicable, but I had a strange phone discussion with a service writer at my local Mazda dealer the other day. My son brought his school car (2000 626) in for an oil change (and that's ALL). The car had 105,000 miles. I knew exactly what they'd say, so I told the service writer when I made the appointment that the car is not on the normal service schedule, it had the 60k service including timing belt at 84k miles, and had the 15k service at 99k miles and an oil/filter change at 102k, so all it should need is an oil/filter change. So what happened? My son told me they tried to convince him the car needed a new timing belt. I called the service writer and asked why they recommended a timing belt replacement. Did they inspect the belt? No, she said 105,000 miles is the recommended change interval for that car. I told her that was odd, because I thought the interval was 60k miles and in fact when I negotiated to have the 60k service done (at another dealership) at 84k miles when I bought the car there a few years ago, they included the timing belt replacement. If the belt could go until 105k, why would that dealership change it, on their dime? 
I have nearly 45k and 5.5 years now on my '04 Elantra. I plan to run it to 60k, which will be about 2.5 more years, before I replace the timing belt. I am sure the dealership will tell me when I bring the car in for its 45k service in a week or two that it needs a timing belt replacement "at five years or 60k, whichever is first." We'll see.
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [jacktb]
by fushigi
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Aug 26, 2009 (6:35 am)
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Replying to: jacktb (Aug 25, 2009 1:30 pm)
If you're still covered by the 10/100 power train warranty, replacing the timing belt is required to maintain warranty coverage for that portion of the drive train that relates to the belt. If you fail to replace the belt on or about 60K (assuming non-CA) and it breaks before the warranty expires, Hyundai can and likely will deny warranty coverage of the repair. And since a broken belt will take a good chunk of the engine internals with it, that's a very expensive repair.
Now, you don't need to replace it early, and can probably get away with waiting a thousand or two extra miles to get it done, but I'd advise you to have it replaced close to the schedule noted in your car's manual. To ensure you're getting a decent deal, call around to local places as well as the Hyundai dealer; any trained mechanic can do the work.
Also, generally, unless the other belts have been replaced recently, pay the few extra bucks and have them done at the same time. Many places won't charge any extra for the labor (just for the parts) as they're in there already.
After the warranty is up, do whatever you want. Stretch to 90K for replacements, for instance. But it's in your own best interest to maintain warranty coverage.
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [fushigi]
by jacktb
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Aug 26, 2009 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: fushigi (Aug 26, 2009 6:35 am)
Thanks for responding with these valid points. Responses to my original post are designed to give me data on it's realistic life span. Specifically, I would like to hear from someone that has had this part fail. I cannot find any of this information so it is assumed at this point that the belt is designed to go significantly past 60K.
I'll probably follow yours and the manual's advice during the warranty period. The feedback will help me for the next time. Thanks again. --Jack
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- #3230 of 3303
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [backy]
by jacktb
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Aug 26, 2009 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 25, 2009 3:35 pm)
Backy: Thanks for the response. 84K is probably closer to the real life span than 60K. It will be interesting to hear from others, especially those that have had the part fail.
I get the same over-maintenance pitch from the dealers also. That's why I also get the cars serviced instead of having the kids go. Was in the auto repair business very briefly in the 80's and one thing that stuck with me was the high emphasis on selling product and service. --Jack
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [jacktb]
by fushigi
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Aug 26, 2009 (9:32 am)
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Replying to: jacktb (Aug 26, 2009 6:56 am)
If you do find some good data points on actual belt longevity, please share with the group. Unfortunately, I'm not sure how good the data would be unless it was broken down by usage conditions - harsh usage like extreme temps or long periods at high revs may be more of a strain than gentle highway cruising.
If you're an "average" driver, you can probably exceed the recommended intervals by 20-30% with no undue harm. That should be within the manufacturer's tolerances/fudge factor. So maybe every 75K v. 60K. I don't know that I would push it to the 100K that the CA warranty provides as that interval is legislated & not necessarily based on manufacturer data.
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- #3232 of 3303
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [jacktb]
by backy
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Aug 26, 2009 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: jacktb (Aug 26, 2009 7:11 am)
I take the cars in myself whenever I can. This time I couldn't. But my 20-year-old son is very responsible, and I told him to call me if they tried to sell him anything other than an oil change. And he did.
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [fushigi]
by jacktb
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Aug 26, 2009 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: fushigi (Aug 26, 2009 9:32 am)
I agree. That's the reason I am leaning towards 75K as it splits the difference. I will post all related data as it becomes available using "Timing Belt Replacement" as the title for easy search reference.
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- #3234 of 3303
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [jacktb]
by jlflemmons
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Aug 26, 2009 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: jacktb (Aug 26, 2009 9:43 am)
On the Hyundai 2.0L, isn't there a cover that can be removed to check the belt for cracking? I seem to remember reading that somewhere.
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