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Hyundai Elantra Maintenance and Repair

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Re: Elantra clutch problems [bad_clutch] by stephen987
Dec 01, 2008 (6:12 pm)
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Replying to: bad_clutch (Dec 01, 2008 5:38 pm)

Thanks for the replies. However, I have to say that if you are not Hyundai service managers you could be, they were almost verbatum as to what the service manager told me. That or there is a lot of kool aid being passed around.
 
Actually, bad_clutch, the reason that I said what I did is that (a) I'm trained as a mechanical engineer, (b) I have a lot of experience working in auto restoration with British and German cars, both of which have certain characteristics that only a specialist would be familiar with, and (c) I've also had otherwise very qualified mechanics thoroughly screw up two Mercedes and a BMW because they weren't familiar with the torque specs for certain critical fasteners. The last time it happened, it cost me $600 to undo the damage.
 
Another point: if the clutch is so poorly designed, why did the first one last 85k? Depending on driving conditions, that sounds about right to me, especially if there's a significant amount of stop-and-go driving in hilly surroundings. The original clutch on my '99 Civic is starting to go after 139k, which I figure is excellent, but it's had mostly highway miles. My '97 Civic's clutch was showing significant wear before 60k, mostly in town.
 
You'll find that almost any vehicle warranty will exclude "wear items," whose longevity is extremely dependent on the conditions of operation and the skill of the operator. Brake pads are one example of such wear items--clutches are another. Hyundai isn't unique here. Manufacturers differ as to what's considered a wear item.
 
So the real question is, assuming that the replacement parts were made by the same people, why didn't they last? Here again, there are some possible issues--were the parts the correct ones? Were they third-party aftermarket, or factory parts? And is there something about their installation that is different from that on other vehicles--something your mechanic may have missed?
 
Now, did you actually want help, or were you just baiting those of us who took the time to try to answer your question?
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Re: Elantra clutch problems [bad_clutch] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Dec 01, 2008 (6:20 pm)
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Replying to: bad_clutch (Dec 01, 2008 5:38 pm)

That's not really fair, bad clutch, with all due respect. Some of our members here know a lot about cars, and we did pour through the TSBs for you, line by line, looking for evidence. It's not like we are pulling things out of thin air.
 
Some car companies won't warranty a clutch PERIOD. It's quite common to see "clutch" specifically excluded. Check out the Chrysler "Lifetime" warranty and see what it says about clutches.
 
Don't know for sure, but so far I'm not inclined to condemn Hyundai.
 
With more or different evidence I might change my mind.
 
Why not give Hyundai a shot at putting in a clutch. If it holds up, you have your answer, and if it doesn't, you can harass Hyundai to warranty their repair work. Yeah, it costs more but at this point why keep doing the same thing that isn't working for you?
 
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Re: Elantra clutch problems [Mr_Shiftright] by stephen987
Dec 01, 2008 (6:37 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 01, 2008 6:20 pm)

Why not give Hyundai a shot at putting in a clutch. If it holds up, you have your answer, and if it doesn't, you can harass Hyundai to warranty their repair work.
 
An excellent suggestion. I had a bad experience with a Honda carburetor being "rebuilt" by an independent mechanic who wasn't familiar with Honda's very odd design (a three-barrel Keihin carb that combined the worst features of a conventional carb and the worst features of an SU type) back in the early '80s. If I had gone to a dealership, I would have had more leverage when the problem recurred.
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Re: Elantra clutch problems [stephen987] by bhmr59
Dec 01, 2008 (7:05 pm)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Dec 01, 2008 6:37 pm)

If I had gone to a dealership, I would have had more leverage when the problem recurred.
 
Or, stephen, the problem may have never recurred.
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Re: Elantra clutch problems [bhmr59] by stephen987
Dec 01, 2008 (7:14 pm)
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Replying to: bhmr59 (Dec 01, 2008 7:05 pm)

Or, stephen, the problem may have never recurred
 
Fair enough. In any event, the point stands. I hope bad_clutch finds a solution, but I'm done trying to help. There's no point--his mind's made up already.
 
Over and out.
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Re: Elantra clutch problems [bhmr59] by fushigi
Dec 02, 2008 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: bhmr59 (Dec 01, 2008 7:05 pm)

I'd add that every dealer I've ever used has warranted their repairs for at least 1 year or 12K miles, so if the clutch problem is indeed recurring so often, further repairs would be covered. As an example, my wife's '01 Elantra had the rear defrost switch go, it was replaced by a dealer. 10 months later it went again and was replaced free/under warranty.
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Headlights Out On Passenger Side Only by GuitarGuy
Dec 06, 2008 (4:40 pm)
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I'm a new member ... what a great forum! My issue is that the passenger side headlights lights, both hi and lo beam (but not the running lights) have stopped working on my '02 Elantra - the drivers side works fine. I reviewed the thread from Nov. 2007 (#2892 +/-) and have checked all fuses that seemed appropriate in both the engine compartment fuse block and the interior one under the ashtray. When checking voltage on the lo beam socket, I get a reading of 5.6v, not the 12.1v that I would have expected and I measured directly off the battery. I've yet to pursue the defective relay angle. This "one-sided" issue strikes me as really weird (tho I don't claim by any means to be an auto mechanic). Both "jlflemmons" and "doohickie" have offered some great help on similar issues (tho the link to the electrical diagram is no longer functional, at least on my computer) and I do appreciate the link to Hyundai WebTech, doohickie, should I need to use it to resolve this. Any assistance in nailing this issue down would be most appreciated.
 
Jim
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Timing Belt Replacement by GuitarGuy
Dec 06, 2008 (4:49 pm)
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I own a '02 Hyundai Elantra with about 120,000 miles on it. I keep reading the recommendation to replace the timing belt at 60K miles? What's with that? I'm 52 and have only had one car in my life time that needed it's timing belt replaced (and I've pushed a bunch of cars to 150,000 miles and beyond.) Is there some rationale out there?? Is Hyundai known for notoriously poor timing belts that break prematurely or what? I must have been lucky so far! That's got to be a repair of $500 or more ... ouch! Jim
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [GuitarGuy] by bhmr59
Dec 06, 2008 (5:46 pm)
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Replying to: GuitarGuy (Dec 06, 2008 4:49 pm)

Timing belts on all cars can wear out. Some cars are returning to timing chains.
 
A friend's son has an Audi and he is looking at $3800 +/- because his timing belt broke.
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Re: Timing Belt Replacement [GuitarGuy] by backy
Dec 06, 2008 (5:49 pm)
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Replying to: GuitarGuy (Dec 06, 2008 4:49 pm)

Yes, you have been lucky so far. If the belt breaks, the engine is toast. So you can continue to count on Lady Luck, or get the belt replaced because if it breaks and you are looking at a repair that will cost far more than $500 (although you can probably find a shop that will do the job for less). Up to you.
 
BTW, Hyundai is not the only manufacturer that recommends replacing rubber timing belts at 60k miles.

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