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Sep 19, 2004 (8:20 pm)
I just got back from a trip to Walmart and after entering the usual information into their little filter computer contraption (2002 Hyundai Elantra 2.0 liter 4cyl), it kicked out a list of filters, including the one I usually buy, the Fram 7317.
As I've always been bothered by how dinky that filter size seems, I tried entering other model year Elantras (2001, 2003 and 2004) around mine where the exact same engine was used. Interestingly, it produced a different filter size for those three years, the 6607. But that puppy was even smaller! So I went ahead and bought the 7317 again.
But I'm really curious and am wondering if anyone knows...why would Walmart's computer list show one size filter for model years 2001, 2003 and 2004 and a different size filter for 2002? This defies all logic, unless, as I assume, Walmart's list just isn't all that accurate.
Has anyone went back and forth between the two filters? I assume both fit just fine on Elantras model years 2001-present, but logic (my logic) dictates that the bigger filter (presumably with more filter area) is the better filter. I should also mention that I've had the Hyundai dealer change my oil before and the OEM filter seemed about twice the size of the 7317 I'm using now.
#1203 of 3416 RE: Oil Filters
Sep 20, 2004 (7:13 am)
I never did a comparison between filters. When I first bought my GT in 01 I bought 10 Hyundai OEM filters on-line at $3.99 each. Now that I've run out I will go to Walmart and use their house brand filter (ST? for $2.50 or so). A friend is using them in his Elantra and claims they are just fine. I used to be a Fram believer until I saw how they are made. No thanks.
#1204 of 3416 RE: Oil Filters [5port]
Sep 20, 2004 (2:44 pm)
I've also been using the Wal-Mart house brand (SuperTech, manufactured by Champion Labs). Based on comments I've read on the Internet, the consensus seems to be they're fine, as 5port suggests.
I sent an e-mail to Champion Labs some time ago about the change in sizing in the Wal-Mart catalog for my '02. Here's the reply I got:
"The ST2808 was recommended in the 2002 catalog. This number is no longer available and the ST7317 is now recommended for the 2002 Hyundai Elantra.
The ST6607 is a shorter filter and can be used as an alternate.
Technical Service Representative
Champion Laboratories, Inc."
Some people say the smaller sized oil filters are actually better. Not sure the exact reason, maybe less of a delay in coming up to full pressure?
At any rate, the Hyundai filter is probably better, but $1.99 for the ST7313 appeals to the same sensibilities that convinced me to buy a Hyundai in the first place...value!
Sep 20, 2004 (9:58 pm)
That's the one for which I was looking. No wonder I couldn't find it. I think I'll check with the Hyundai dealer for oil filter prices the next time I pick up an air filter (for which I can find no aftermarket alternative at all).
Just curious, but do you guys use a filter wrench or just hand tighten? I haven't found a wrench small enough to safely grab the tiny 7317/6607 filters, so I use a 10mm wrench to remove the plastic drain ramp on each change so I can get my arm up there with enough leverage to completely loosen the old and tighten the new filter in place. I've thought about just permanently removing the plastic ramp and chucking it as it seems to serve no purpose other than being an annoyance at every oil change.
#1206 of 3416 RE: Oil change process...
Sep 21, 2004 (6:28 am)
I've been using the stock Hyundai filters and found that a socketed cap works well. I place the cap on the filter, insert my 3/8 rachet and loosen the filter to remove it. After installing the new filter I hand tighten the filter then use the cap for another 1/4 turn.
#1207 of 3416 Where did you find a filter cap that fits?
Sep 21, 2004 (8:17 am)
I have looked all over the parts houses, and other than going with snap-on or such, I cannot find a filter cap that fits. That little sucker is juussstttt a little bit too small.
#1208 of 3416 RE:Where did you find a filter cap that fits?
Sep 21, 2004 (9:59 am)
I believe I bought this cap at US1 Auto Parts when it was open (now closed) near my house. It is tough to find a cap that fits the smaller sized filters. When I get home I will look at it closely and post any further info.
#1209 of 3416 RE:Where did you find a filter cap that fits? [5port]
Sep 21, 2004 (11:04 am)
Thanks! That is an odd sized little filter.
#1210 of 3416 Thump under wheel well.
Sep 22, 2004 (7:52 am)
I just bought a Hyundai Elantra 2004 at the end of June. It is an automatic.
I am having a problem of some sorts.
There is no shimmy or anything like that, but as I drive I hear a "thumping" sound right underneath my driver side wheel well. It is over every bump and and little hump in the road.
It is almost a thumping "click" type of sound. And I can feel it under my foot as I drive. Right under that place where I rest my left foot.
The wheel seems fine as do the tires, does anyone have any idea what could be wrong?
#1211 of 3416 Re: Boo Hoo! [compensate]
Sep 22, 2004 (1:13 pm)
I'll never buy a Hyundai again! 2001 Elantra..minor damage to right side from last year snow storm, friend grazed it with snow blower...14 months later sitting with car in park-passenger side airbag discharges locking seatbelt but no airbag comes out....2 weeks later sitting again with car in park just about to get out..drivers side airbag deploys striking me in side of head rupturing eardrum..take it to dealer where their "super computer" tells me it was in a collision for the passenger side! Brought it back after the drivers side incident...and the district rep claims there is undercarriage damage that caused the airbag to deploy! Nice to know the dang airbag will work if you get hit under your car! They denied the claim and the consumer affairs dept from Hyundai did nothing...so it's attorney time, BBB time, attorney general time. Buy American I know i'm going to once I unload this peice of crap!