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#880 of 2541 Re: Possible Solution For BCM Problems [jk27]
Feb 03, 2005 (4:25 pm)
Heres an RDV owner thats very glad that he had an extended warranty.You could have very easily ended up with this one?How would you feel then?You seem to have very little compassion for problem RDV owners.This one could sure empty the old checking account in a hurry.If I had one that bad it would be long gone by now.By the way this is from a very well known car magazines forum which I cant mention on here.
Results: 2002 BUICK RENDEZVOUS User Results
Submitted by: Reviewer from ottawa , IL
Date Reviewed: 10/23/2004 9:44:09 AM
Years Owned: 2 Years
Style: CXL awd
Owned Before: I have previously owned a vehicle of this make.
Pros: sound system is great
Cons: quality control and electrical
Review: This vehicle is on its fifth BCM, third instrument cluster, third PCM,third battery, third leveling pump and third starter. It has had the intake gaskets replaced as well as the water pump. It also has had the condensor replaced. This has not been a good vehicle. I would not recommend it to anyone else. Thank goodness I have the extended warranty on this vehicle or it would have been a financial disaster.
Vehicle Styling 2.5
Fuel Economy 2.5
Interior Comfort 5
Fit and Finish 5
I have many-many more like the above stored away on my computer.I just found another RDV owner on his 6th BCM.RDV's are like Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.One can be totally good and one can be totally bad.Its hard to believe that they could have all possibly came down the same assembly line together.
I'm not here to bash the RDV or their owners,just to warn people about the problem ones that are out there.We traded one off and the people that bought it never even bothered to call us for info on its past.If you buy a used RDV please check put its history.I'd even consider owning another RDV if I knew it would be dependable.Most ex RDV owners say they will never buy another GM product but thats not me.Buick really should try to help out the problem RDV owners in some way.Some owners didnt get much for their hard earned money and took a pounding.
I'm no big fan of extended warrantys but I'd sure have one if I owned a 2002-03 RDV.I've only had one extended warranty in my life and never used it.
I'll tell you what.Lets call a truce.I think I've made my point.I'll lay low for awhile if you lay low.Lets hear from other RDV owners good or bad.It will soon be corn planting time and I have lots to do.
By the way over the weekend I'll probably stop by one of the largest Buick RDV dealers in the midwest.I'd like to see my first new Ultra.It might be fun to test drive an Ultra with the new 3.6.Lets face it,the 3.4 was barely adequate.Our local Buick dealer only got in one new 2004 RDV and hasnt even gotten in a 2005 yet.By the way we still watch for RDV's when we are out on the hiway.We see more and more of them and it makes us wish our 02 CXL had been dependable.We didnt enjoy having to trade it off.
jk,good luck with your RDV.
#881 of 2541 Re: Possible Solution For BCM Problems [regalluvr2]
Feb 03, 2005 (8:22 pm)
Just to let everyone know that I am very happy with my 2002 CX. Not one problem at 18,000 miles. But this board scares me. I keep thinking any day something will break
#882 of 2541 Re: Possible Solution For BCM Problems [cmccull]
Feb 04, 2005 (9:28 am)
cmccull said, "Just to let everyone know that I am very happy with my 2002 CX. Not one problem at 18,000 miles. But this board scares me. I keep thinking any day something will break." Don't live in fear ... enjoy your RDV. Keep up with the maintenance and periodically check your coolant levels. If it drops, bring it in for a checkup.
The "fear" that some posters have put into others here I do not believe is warranted. You have another 18,000 miles of bumper to bumper warranty on your vehicle. Good luck!
#883 of 2541 Re: Possible Solution For BCM Problems [regalluvr2]
Feb 04, 2005 (9:31 am)
I agree ... we've both made our points. There are good RDV's and there are bad RDV's out there. Hopefully Consumer Reports is correct that the reliability has continued to improve and this will become less of an issue.
Good luck with planting! And let us know how you like the Ultra (I do wish my RDV had a bit more pep!).
#884 of 2541 Re: engine temp and heat [lgret13]
Feb 06, 2005 (3:56 pm)
I have the exact same problem with my 2002 with 55K miles. Today a mechanic at local gas station said I'm loosing antifreeze thru a leaking intake manifold. Antifreeze is leaking into the engine! He said if not repair soon the engine will be severally damaged.
I need to go to GM dealer tomorrow and see if this costly repair (replace intake manifold approx $1000) is partly covered by GM secret warranty.
#885 of 2541 Re: [dspradlin]
Feb 09, 2005 (4:09 pm)
This may or may not help with this problem but I had a love/hate relationship with a 1990 Grand Prix STE Pontiac that had electrical problems out the door. The dealer had it 4 out of the first 6 weeks that I owned it but I did get 100,000 mile out of it before I traded it. In those 4 weeks the dealer replaced alot of the electrical system and a battery that seemed to be OK but didn't have the right resistance(?). We decided to get rid of the car when we had alot electrical problems some of which I am reading here and I found a wire connector that had melted and was causing all kinds of no lights, not starting and other weird things. I would have hoped that by now that GM would have gotten it right but much to my disappointment, for now I have Rendezvous, it looks like I may have another problem.
#886 of 2541 Re: Possible Solution For BCM Problems [jk27]
Feb 10, 2005 (5:59 pm)
Regalluvr's suggestion makes sense as the BCM is located inside the center console, and a spilled soda might cause a short circuit.
Another possibility - voltage regulator gone bad and causing BCM failures. Check wiring and fuses for damage.
Yet another possible explanation is that it's all in the Motorola's BCM "microprocessor condition" as stated in the latest GM TechLink newsletter at
Essentially what it says is that you need to double-check that the mechanics replacing the BCM must be trained and follow the service procedure exactly in order to fix the BCM. Just returning to the same dealer to replace yet another BCM won't solve the problem. Consider trying another dealer in your area if the first one can't do it right the first time.
More on this subject at
http://www.gmtechlink.com/images/issues/jul04/TLJul04e.html#story- - 6
On a different note, someone asked for programming. The BCM keyfob programming method was suggested by pontiac-dude as follows:
"There's a manual method of programming keyless entry transmitters also. Make sure that you have all the transmitters you want to be able to use handy because the system will have to "learn" each one, even if they already worked before. If you have the memory seat/radio/mirror option you'll need to program the remote for 'driver 1' first, then 'driver 2', then up to 2 others. Here's how to do it:
1. Close the vehicle doors.
2. Turn OFF the ignition.
3. Remove the ignition key from the ignition lock cylinder.
4. Press and hold the driver side door lock switch to the unlock position.
5. Insert the ignition key into the ignition lock cylinder and remove the key. (Do not turn the ignition key in the lock cylinder.)
6. Insert the ignition key into the ignition lock cylinder and remove the key. (Do not turn the ignition key in the lock cylinder.)
7. Insert the ignition key into the ignition lock cylinder. (Do not turn the ignition key in the lock cylinder.) Leave the ignition key in the ignition lock cylinder.
8. Release the door lock switch. The body control module (BCM) will sound three beeps in order to verify the Program Mode has been activated.
9. Press the lock and unlock buttons on the keyless entry transmitter simultaneously for approximately 5 seconds . The BCM will sound two beeps in order to verify that the transmitter has been successfully programmed.
10. Perform the previous step to program up to four transmitters.
11. Remove the ignition key in order to exit the Program Mode.
12. Verify the proper operation of each transmitter."
#887 of 2541 Re: 04 rdv steering problem [henry2]
Feb 10, 2005 (7:13 pm)
I have an 02 RDV CXL with 41K miles and have begun to see the same symptoms as described by henry2. The dealer recommended a four-wheel alignment, but all that did was to move the steering wheel off-center point from 15 degrees right to 15 degrees left. This now occurs only after I make a left turn.
I'm interested in any follow up done by Buick customer service.
#888 of 2541 CRITERIA OF LEMON LAW
Feb 14, 2005 (4:13 pm)
I have an 02 RDV CXL with one serious problem that I am in the process of trading-in.
I've been having a problem with engine shutting off at a speed of 15-30 miles and it happens every 3-4 months. It happened last Thursday morning and my wife and 4 year old son were riding in it and they almost got hit from behind. I took the RDV to a dealer but could not locate the problem again.
I've had this problem ever since I purchased this new vehicle and have been in dealer shop for a numerous times just for this reason. Everytime, I take this car into the shop all they do is the "Scan the software and update." I have all their service reports in writing but this problem is not going away and it will happen again in next few months and I can't take anymore risk.
Besides this, my RDV engine blew at 4000 miles and the dealer replaced. I had a A/C Condenser replaced at 16000 miles and a hub bearing replaced at 22000 miles and both covered by warranty.
Can anyone tell me if my car is fit into a lemon and how to preceed with?
#889 of 2541 Re: CRITERIA OF LEMON LAW [samyunlee]
Feb 14, 2005 (6:47 pm)
I'm sure sorry to hear of all your problems.I expect that by now you've owned your 02 RDV too long to have it lemon lawed.The lemon laws are different from state to state.
It just seems like that these days lots of car dealers just dont know what to do about electrical problems which is what yours has.Does your RDV refuse to restart after shutting down?More than one 02-03 CXL RDV has the same problem as yours.A lady in a distant town has one that shuts down at 60-70 mph and she has almost been hit from the rear several times.It will refuse to restart until its towed in to the dealer.They have worked and worked on it and cant seem to find the problem.
Yours is only the 3rd RDV that I've heard of losing an engine.The Dodge Durango owners seem to be faring far worse on engines as I've read about 100's of them losing engines due to sludge build up.