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#1930 of 2196
Using oil by cweber
Jan 06, 2008 (7:48 pm)
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Over X-mas my wife and I drove 12 hours to her parents and when we got there I found out that my 02 Rend used 4qts of oil. This has happend the last two trips there. So I did what and mechanic would do, I checked the plugs so sign of burning oil. I drove the vehical about 10 miles and parked in my garage and left it sit till it cooled then looked to see if any oil leaked on to the concret and there was nothing. I also checked the air cleaner to see if I was getting any blow by no evidence of any. I also checked the exhast just incase it was burning oil and some how the plugs just werent showing because it was such a small amount and as I suspected no indication in the exhaust that it was burning oil.I also checked the PCV and it was working properly. I then proceded to take it to the local chev dealer and they found nothing on there diagnostics equip to indicate that it was using oil. I am very mechanically inclined and have been servicing my own vehicals since I was 14. I am 28 now and in all the years that I have serviced vehicals never have I come across anything that I cant diagnose my self from listening or from past experiences than my current problem. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS. This is the most frusterateing problem I have ever encounterd with cars.
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Re: Using oil [cweber] by bxd
Jan 07, 2008 (6:05 am)
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Replying to: cweber (Jan 06, 2008 7:48 pm)

Hope we can help you... first some questions.
 
1. Is the terrain the same on the whole 12 hour trip? Or is it, for example, flat the first 3 hours, then mountainous for 3 hours, then flat for 6?
 
2. I assume this is the 3.4 OHV V6. How many miles? AWD?
 
3. Do you REALLY mean you were down 4 whole quarts? Because the whole crankcase capacity is only 4.5? Not doubting you, just asking for clarification.
 
4. Did you look at the coolant level? Normal?
#1932 of 2196
Re: Using oil [bxd] by cweber
Jan 07, 2008 (5:54 pm)
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Replying to: bxd (Jan 07, 2008 6:05 am)

Well we drive through the eastern side of ND through MN on I 94 into Wisconsin and end up just south west of Ripon WI 30 min. So its pretty much exactly how you described it. Yes its the 3.4, a little over 95k, yes AWD, and finally yes 4qt. Coolant level normal. I Know Im only 28 but I have had 14 years of experience working on vehicles and never once have I run into this. Most of what I know about vehicles I taught my self from trial and error, along with asking a local VW mechanic. I rebuilt my first engine which was a 1600 VW engine and attempted to mount it on a Go-cart lol and FAILED, but it ran like knew. sold it for 800 back the the mechanic that gave it to me. So I naturally ruled out every thing that I could except for the rear intake manifold, which I have read in my research that REND ar notorious for. So next week it will be at the dealership.
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2002 CXL BCM or Ground??? by ragerrl
Jan 13, 2008 (11:25 pm)
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I recently had the head gasket done in our Rendezvous. It ran great well at least for two hours. Then the lights went out dash and all and it was like the thing went throught the whole start up process. It beeped the lights came back on the fasten seatbelt light flashed. It only happens when you have been driving for an hour or so, and only flickers off then back on. I figured they forgot to connect a ground or there was a short. They told me they needed to put in a new fuse box and it would cost around $600. Since I just gave them $2000 for the head gasket, I said no and have still been driving it. It is fine for close distances like the work commute, but after an hour it goes through the same process. If I turn the lights on instead of having them on auto they will stay on and everything else will go out and come back on. Ground or BCM??? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!!!
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Re: 2002 CXL BCM or Ground??? [ragerrl] by ray80
Jan 14, 2008 (5:37 am)
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Replying to: ragerrl (Jan 13, 2008 11:25 pm)

If I'm reading this correctly, it sounds like the problem started shortly after service for head gasket. I'm thinking it is likely they would have messed with/ wiggled underhood fuse box in the process and perhaps lossened something up in the process. I would try checking the connections to that to ensure they are tight and also perhaps re-seat all the fuses to ensure proper connection (you might want to remove negative cable to battery when you do this and re-connect after)
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Re: Using oil [cweber] by bxd
Jan 14, 2008 (5:39 am)
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Replying to: cweber (Jan 07, 2008 5:54 pm)

If you lost 4 qts out of 4.5 qts and finished your trip, you need to count yourself very lucky.
 
The rear intake manifold is a good thought - BUT the oil has to go somewhere, period. If you crawled underneath and everything was dry, my only thought is that it could have been dripping from the rear valve cover or intake manifold, unto a hot exhaust, and burning away. BUT, again, that would create smoke and smell bad. Perhaps on the highway you wouldn't notice with the wind carrying it away but anytime you would have pulled off the highway for food or gas, you would have smelled oil burning badly at the rate you were going through.
 
I guess the dealer is the next stop. I'd be a little curious to get underneath and take a look at the top side of the exhaust, see if there's any signs.
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Re: 2002 CXL BCM or Ground??? [ray80] by bxd
Jan 14, 2008 (5:41 am)
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Replying to: ray80 (Jan 14, 2008 5:37 am)

Check the fuse box connections like the other poster said. Also check the battery connections themselves. And keep your eye out for anything banged up/cracked - just in case they did it, they ought to pony up for a fix.
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Buying a 2002 RDV CXL AWD by kts1
Jan 15, 2008 (7:48 am)
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Hi,
 
I am considering to buy a 2002 RDV CXL AWD and I would like to know what you think about it. It is hard to make a decision based on the testimonials on this forum. Most of you say that you are having many problems with the cars and the dealerships, but besides that the feeling I have is that you don't regret for the choice because of the features, the comfort, etc. Is that right?
 
I drove the RDV for about 20 minutes and I loved it! The mirrors are huge, but I think I can get used to it. But 20 minutes is not enough to make a decision about an investment like that. The price I got is pretty good (around $7500), one owner, I have the maintenance history and the autocheck. It has about 97000 miles on it.
 
On the maintenance history there are some things that is hard to know the meaning ( I don't know anything about cars). For example:
116 miles - NC PDI RECHECK
4656 miles - BODY-ELECTRICAL, BODY-ELEC. MISC1, BODY-ELEC. MISC2 and there is a message "DO NOT USE!!"
11208 miles - BODY-ELECTRICAL
19387 miles - BODY-TRIM, CAMPAIGN
26000 miles - REPLACE PCV VALVE
31544 miles - INJECTOR SERVICE, DECARBONIZE VALVE, BODY-TRIM, BODY-ELECTRICAL, BODY-ELEC. MISC1
36628 miles - BODY-ELECTRICAL
41376 miles - BODY ELECTRICAL
44964 miles - BODY-TRIM
48637 miles - REPLACE PCV VALVE, BODY-TRIM, BODY-TRIM MISC1
49105 miles - BODY-TRIM
52422 miles - ATF FLUSH
57309 miles - ENGINE--COOLING, BRAKE-RELINE/REPAIR
66856 miles - INJECTOR SERVICE, DECARBONIZE VALVE, ENGINE--COOLING, BRAKE-RELINE/REPAIR
73976 miles - BODY-TRIM, BRAKE-RELINE/REPAIR
95386 miles - ENGINE-ELECTRICAL, A/C REPAIR
96584 miles - CHARGING SYSTEM
96799 miles - ENGINE--MINOR, REPLACE PCV VALVE, U.C. SAFETY/LOF , DETAIL-USED, CHIP REPAIR, WINDSHIELD REPAIR.
 
As you can see, electrical and trim are there several times. The same with PCV valve. There are more things that I didn't describe...
I have the last owner's phone but I couldn't find him at home yet.
I'm sorry for typing all the details, but I really need to know if it is a good idea to buy this car and I can't afford to spend money on repairs all the time . The dealership will give me only 3000 miles / 3 months of powertrain warranty. And I have the option of paying around $1400 for an extended full warranty for 3 years/ 50000 miles.
 
I would appreciate any advice from you about that.
 
KtS1
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Re: Buying a 2002 RDV CXL AWD [kts1] by bxd
Jan 15, 2008 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: kts1 (Jan 15, 2008 7:48 am)

NC PDI RECHECK - No Charge, Pre Delivery Inspection, Re-Check (they just went over the car a 2nd time before the first buyer took it home)
 
The "BODY-electrical" could be anything, wiring problems, BCM, etc.
 
BODY-TRIM is probably a piece of molding or insulation that wasn't quite right, and the fact it was a "campaign" means probably nothing was even wrong with your particular RDV, but GM decided to update that part on all RDVs.
 
Replacing a PCV valve every once in a while is normal. So is flushing the Automatic Transmission Fluid, decarbonizing the throttle body, FI treatment, brake job, etc.
 
Nothing on there really scares me. I would insist the dealer do an ATF flush and a cooling system flush, they're both due around 100k miles. I hope the brakes and tires are in reasonably good shape.
 
Does the $1400 warranty really cover everything for 3 yrs / 50k miles? At what deductible? That seems like a good deal, if it's full warranty and low deductible. If it's powertrain only, it's still probably worth it.
 
How many miles a year do you drive, and, how long would you want to keep this car?
 
Brian D.
07 RDV CXL
#1939 of 2196
Re: Buying a 2002 RDV CXL AWD [bxd] by kts1
Jan 15, 2008 (9:45 am)
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Replying to: bxd (Jan 15, 2008 8:02 am)

I don't know the details about the warranty yet. He didn't say anything about deductible. He said that I have to choose what I want to be covered on the warranty and that it goes from $800 up to $1400 for 3 years or 50000 miles. There is an option for 5 years / 100000 miles too but we didn't talk about it yet.
 
My budget will be really tight with the car payment and full coverage insurance, so I don't want surprises. And I'm new to the US so It is kind of hard to get good rates on financing. I want to keep this car as long as I can 3 to 5 years. I don't think I will drive even 1000 miles in a month.
 
I have the best references about the dealership. They are HUGE here. But sometimes cars are just bad...
 
I have a 97 Pontiac Grand Am and one day I drove to work and it was working great. When I was leaving 8 yours later the car simply didn't start. The mechanic said it is the timing belt tensioner. It is expensive to fix and I don't want to put more money on it. The car itself worth about $500 in a trade-in (if it is working fine).
 
It is time to get a good car.
I would feel better about this car if I hear from owners of the 2002 RDV that it is a good buy.

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