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#2 of 2253 Jeep Liberty by mark156 Jul 02, 2001 (4:28 pm)
Hi Folks, as a Jeep Grand Cherokee owner, I have been interested in the Liberty. A friend of mine (female) looked at almost all of the mid-sized suv's out there and decided on a white Liberty limited with taupe leather. I understand that she is having a little trouble with rough idle which causes vibrations to felt throughout vehicle especially the steering wheel. When she was looking and checking prices, she drove quite a few because this will probably be her last car and she wanted to make a good choice. She would kill me if I told her age.... anyway, she never noticed the other demo's driving rough. So, hopefully, it's a minor problem that can be corrected. I'll keep you posted on her diagnosis.   Mark
#3 of 2253 Hmmm... by rsholland Jul 06, 2001 (2:13 pm)
Interesting there's already a "Liberty Problems" forum, and the vehicle has been on sale less than month. Is this because it's a "Jeep," and problems are to be expected?   IMO, it would have been be nice to give this vehicle the benefit of the doubt, and wait to see if problems do develop, before starting such a topic.   Bob
#4 of 2253 by seeingwhite Jul 06, 2001 (4:12 pm)
rsholland,   New model debuts almost always have some mechanical issues. Many people who are cautiously considering the prospect of buying a Liberty this year -- such as myself -- might be able to learn about some problems that may (or may not) arise in the early months of its release.   This is also a forum where people can talk about how they haven't had any troubles at all with their new Liberty and how much they love it. This information would be equally as helpful.   Truman
#5 of 2253 Awful noise with rear windows down by shavieclaws Jul 06, 2001 (6:46 pm)
I've owned my Liberty Limited for about a week now. I was reading some customer reviews over at Carpoint.com, and noted many had written about a terrible noise that fills the car when your cruising at least 45 MPH or so with the rear windows down. Some had described it as the sound of a helicopter, pulsating inside the car.   I tried it out on my way home from work, and sure enough, its bad! The sound is so strong it hurts your eardrums, no joke. The good thing is I will rarely ever need to drive with the rear windows down at any sustained speed. But I do wish there was some way to cure this problem!
#6 of 2253 RE: Awful noise by dougmckay Jul 07, 2001 (1:01 pm)
This happens in a lot of cars. To fix the problem, simply crack open a front window. This relieves the inconsistencies in air pressure inside the cabin and reduces or eliminates the pulsating sound.   To give you an example of just how common this phenomenon is...I currently own a VW GTI with a sunroof that is opened by twisting a dial (this allows you to open the sunroof at varying positions). If I drive at highway speeds with the sunroof all the way open and the windows closed I experience the "helicopter" effect. Apparently VW knew about this when designing the car, because they included a "comfort" setting on the sunroof dial (nothing more than a large dot on the dial). Sure enough, when the sunroof is opened only to the comfort position, the buffeting goes away. What's really amazing is that there is only an inch or two difference between the comfort position and full open position of the sunroof, but that little change makes all the difference.
#7 of 2253 Nick by rsholland Jul 07, 2001 (2:09 pm)
Perhaps, but it also implies/suggests that there are, or will be, problems with the new Liberty based solely on the fact that it will inherit Jeep's somewhat shoddy reliability reputation. At least that's how it comes across to me.   There are other new models popping up with other brands here at Edmunds that don't have "Problem-Specific" forums. Why Jeep?   Bob
#8 of 2253 Reply to dougmckay by shavieclaws Jul 07, 2001 (6:29 pm)
Good to know. You may find this phenom a bit more pronounced on the Liberty. Regardless, I don't see this as a driving situation I will have to worry about much or ever.   I will say this. So far I am extremely pleased with the Liberty! It just feels solid, like it was built with pride. Perfect name for the vehicle, if you ask me.
#9 of 2253 Bob by drew_ Jul 07, 2001 (7:45 pm)
Actually this topic was named "Jeep Liberty" something else (see the first poster/topic creator's message at the beginning of this topic). I was the one who changed the name to "Jeep Liberty problems" because I felt that it would be more appropriate. It wasn't intended to predict anything though To be fair though, over in the Vans message board, even the Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, and Mazda MPV have "problem" topics. As for the DC vans, they have multiple ones ;-p   Drew Host Vans, SUVs, and Aftermarket & Accessories message boards
#10 of 2253 Test drove a Liberty by scape2 Jul 07, 2001 (8:25 pm)
and its right on par with any import in this class as far as fit/finish goes. The 3.7 is wonderful, smooth and able. Even the shifting of the auto was nice and smooth. The salesperson was very knowledgable about this vehicle. He claimed Diamler wants this to be a winner and has taken great strides to make this a reliable vehicle. Heck, they spent millions on a state of the art factory just for the Liberty.. Prices are also already beating the Ford Escape. You can get a V6 Liberty nicely optioned for 19.9K in my area. Not just one either, up to 5 or more to choose from... I have been a Ford owner for over 20 years and all have served me just fine.. The Jeep Liberty is however making me think twice.
#11 of 2253 liberty problems ?? by winbro Jul 08, 2001 (6:01 am)
I hope this particular subject area stays for problems only. If I love my liberty when I get it, I will post messages on the regular liberty area. I also hope this remains for ligitimate safety, design or mechanical problems as well, not for petty gripes about control layouts, storage space, rear legroom etc.   as far as other problem rooms, just check out the escape/tribute problems; santa fe; explorer...you get the picture.

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