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How Do I Calculate Monthly Lease Payments?

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Re: [fordfool] by joel0622
Nov 19, 2008 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: fordfool (Nov 18, 2008 6:01 pm)

Ya beat me to it.
 
I used to be able to pencil whip a lease by hand with the best of them. A customer could ask me what a payment would be and I could flip a buyers order and figure it quicker then a cat can lick its butt.
 
Now you could hold a gun to my head and I could not figure one by hand
 
Probably because over the last 5 years we have gone from doing 75 leases a month to maybe 1 a month.
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Re: [joel0622] by grandtotal
Nov 19, 2008 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Nov 19, 2008 6:27 am)

Probably because over the last 5 years we have gone from doing 75 leases a month to maybe 1 a month.
 
Really? I'd have thought it would be the complete opposite, people trying to reduce their monthly outgoings.
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Re: [grandtotal] by joel0622
Nov 19, 2008 (7:39 am)
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Replying to: grandtotal (Nov 19, 2008 6:30 am)

Hell Ford is the only Domestic that still has a leasing program. We were not as dumb as the other two to come out and say. "We think so little of our own product we won't lease it to you because we are afraid of the lease end value" We just simply adjusted our lease program so the Residual Value makes sense. In the end it makes buying more attractive. Especially with all the 0% money flying around these days.
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Re: [joel0622] by grandtotal
Nov 19, 2008 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Nov 19, 2008 7:39 am)

Getting the residual value correct is a smart idea. If they really have that right then why not apply some of that 0% interest budget that they have to leasing and give the consumer a choice? Maybe they are a little scared of even their revised residuals?
 
Our latest car (11 months ago) was leased (first time ever for us) and we did that because we wanted someone else to underwrite the residual.
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Re: [fordfool] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 19, 2008 (8:20 am)
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Replying to: fordfool (Nov 18, 2008 6:01 pm)

All correct, except this part...
 
Because a part of the loan is being paid back each month, the average amount owed over the term of the loan is one-half of the amount financed (divide by 2).

 
You are paying finance charges on an average of the CAP cost + residual, but in the formula, they are added together... The division by 2 gets you the average..
(CAP cost + residual) / 2
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: [grandtotal] by joel0622
Nov 19, 2008 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: grandtotal (Nov 19, 2008 8:13 am)

Maybe they are a little scared of even their revised residuals?
 
What makes you say that????
 
Perception and dealer greed killed leasing. I can find 3000 post on this board alone where people talk about calling it fleecing. Publications advise against it, and dealers took a good thing and took advantage of it.
 
Ford by the way was the first manufacture to go to a fully disclosed lease contract years before the guv ever called for it.
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Re: [joel0622] by grandtotal
Nov 19, 2008 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Nov 19, 2008 9:35 am)

What makes you say that????
 
Well, if Ford have their residuals correct (not an easy thing to do) then they could afford to grant 0% leases in exactly the same way as they can 0% loans. Maybe the reason they don't is because they are not totally sure of their residual numbers. I realise you can never be certain, but to say a 99% confidence level.
 
I personally feel that leasing is a perfectly legitimate was to get the use of a vehicle for a period, I have no need to "own" the car I drive. So long as you can drive a financial calculator there is no need to fear "fleecing".
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Re: The Return of "How to Calculate Monthly Lease Payments" [golic] by giannv
Dec 02, 2008 (9:12 pm)
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Replying to: golic (Feb 26, 2006 7:43 am)

Golic,
can you please email me the spreadsheet you prepared. thanks
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The spreadsheet by golic
Dec 02, 2008 (10:00 pm)
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Ok everyone - I am around again, if you need the spread sheet, drop me an email or post a reply.
 
good luck!! Please let me know of any corrections.
 
Golic
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Re: The Return of "How to Calculate Monthly Lease Payments" [giannv] by golic
Dec 02, 2008 (10:02 pm)
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Replying to: giannv (Dec 02, 2008 9:12 pm)

Your email is set to private ginny. So let me know what it is and I will send.

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