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Replying to: drum4fun (Jul 18, 2005 11:16 am) Love my 05 Honda Accord LX AT...only thing I don't like about it is the way you have to reach underneath the steering wheel to adjust the wheel height and telescoping feature...it's kind of a bad design...I much prefer my hubby's car which has a button on the top of the column....but I can live with that because the car is great! It's a 4 banger, but I found out how good and smooth that engine is the other day on the highway....looked down to see I was doing almost 90 and didn't even realize it...oops! Very smooth acceleration, so smooth, you don't realize the momentum it's gathering! I bought mine from Castle Honda whose price was 17734 (include dest) + 55.39 doc fee + 1467.62 (IL tax)+148.42 (cook county tax)+143.00(for new plates) for a total of 19548.43 OTD. It does suck to live in chicago with the 9% tax....and the cook county tax. You can't avoid it even if you buy in Indiana...dealers will calculate tax on where the car is going to be registered, even the county tax  I had one dealer in Highland Park that tried to use the "we will save you money by not charging you the county tax because we are not in cook county" . Fat chance, once the car is registered to the city and county you WILL get a bill. Besides the savings is $148.00 off your price. That dealer was still way higher then others..so there was no savings. I got 2.9 financing for 48 months. F&I was very helpful. Asked me up front what I wanted if anything. I said no ext warrenty, no undercoating, no backend adds. He said great, that meant he could skip his whole "spheal" about that. We were in and out of the F&I office in 15 minutes. "I personally think he just was tired and wanted to go home". I think seeing the F&I guy right before closing was actually a smart thing to do  I thought Castle Honda gave a fair price, the people were nice and the transaction was smooth. Overall a pleasant experience. Upside is that the internet manager answers every call that rings (the man is like a machine), downside is that he does this also when you are with him at his desk. ( he did apologize and routed most of the calls to associates when his phone kept ringing off the hook). They made money and I got a "fair" deal...that's all I ever wanted.
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Replying to: desseekingcar (Jul 19, 2005 6:39 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jul 19, 2005 6:48 am) When I put fair in "'s it's because I meant really it was fair for both parties and I didn't want people to think I was being cheeky! Sorry, fair actually was meant as a compliment!
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Replying to: mldj98 (Jul 19, 2005 4:35 am) I agree that OTD is not as relevant because TTL (tax, title and license) will vary from state to state or even from county to county. However, I believe that the most useful information that posters in this forum can post for comparison purposes is the price of the car before TTL, but including all these other "garbage" fees such as documentation fee, advertising fee, internet fee, etc. I call them "garbage" fees because dealers keep most if not all of them (unlike TTL) and they use these fees, which could add up to hundreds of dollars (I heard of $400-$500 documentation fees) to increase the selling price of the cars. In order to get a customer in the door (where their shark salesmen can finish up the job) they will quote their prices conveniently missing all these "garbage" fees to make their quotes seem lower than the competition. And once you're there... you get the picture. IMO, asking for quotes before TTL, but including destination and all these "other fees" is the only way we can really compare prices on an apples-to-apples basis (then just ask the dealer what the TTL in your area is). Therefore, I believe this is also the most helpful way to post prices in this forum. It was for me.
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Replying to: desseekingcar (Jul 19, 2005 7:16 am) You did the right thing to buy at the time that you did. No more financing from Honda. I am trying to decide what to do (that is a lot of cash to come up with) and I am kicking myself thinking that the deal would go until Sept like they said on the website. Glad you are happy with your ride. |
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Replying to: joon (Jul 19, 2005 7:50 am) I again will disagree with you because doc fees vary by state and county...some states put a limit on how much they can charge on doc fees...and I have yet to see any Honda dealer charge a internet fee, or advertising fee, and if they do...I would drop them in a heartbeat...bottom line is this...most dealers in your area are going to charge about the same doc fees...in fact I bet they are all within a $100 bucks of each other...why not just ask the dealer you are working with what the doc fees are...use that as a base for the other dealers...here in florida most dealers fees range from 299.00 to 599.00 depending on the type of (Luxury line usally up to the 599.00 range) vehicle...yep...you read that right...big $$$....that is because there is no limit in Florida for these fees.... What I do is get the internet person to email me all the fees listed right on down to the final price....battery fee, tire fee, etc...and if they are not willing to do that then expand your search area around where you live...no need to get all bend out of shape with one dealer...if they want your business they won't screw with you... I went over 200 miles to get my car and saved $1300 to boot...straight forward deal...no b.s. Good Luck...
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Replying to: mldj98 (Jul 19, 2005 10:05 am) Maybe we're saying the same thing in a different way. I was responding to the poster that said that OTD price is the best way to compare prices in this forum and to your reply that it is not because TTL is different for different locations and that therefore, one should post the price of the car including destination. My point was that many times when quoting through the phone or through the internet, dealers will not include these junk fees in their price quote, giving a distorted picture of what the car will actually cost. And since this is the quote people receives (without the junk fees that will be added later when they get to the dealer), that's the quote they would normally post in this forum. My point was that to me the easiest way to compare prices was to get prices including all these fees, but just before TTL since this will be different for each location. Case in point: you mention FL charges $299-$599 for documentation fee. I bet dealers do not include this figure when giving out quotes to make their numbers seem lower than it really is. And yes, if you read through this forum you will occasionally hear people say that dealers wanted to charge them internet and advertising fee. BTW, I already purchased my EX-4 AT last May and am only posting to try to help other readers that may find this helpful. So, I will stick to my point that the best way to compare car prices on an apples-to-apples basis is to get the prices before TTL, but including junk fees. Therefore, again IMO this is how prices should be mentioned on this forum to maximize benefit to other readers trying to compare prices.
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Replying to: camrypop (Jul 03, 2005 1:00 pm) |
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Replying to: mldj98 (Jul 19, 2005 10:05 am) |
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| Some dealers are adding sticker-type pinstripes to the cars immediately when they roll off the truck. They try to tack on an additional $199 for this. If you like them, fine..... but I happen not to want them, no matter the price, even "free." I had to reject a car because of this. | |
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