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Replying to: freewilly (Jun 19, 2005 5:19 pm)
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Replying to: akkijain (Jun 20, 2005 3:22 am) I didnt watch the entire commercial in a highly critical fashion, the lighs caught my eye, and I thought "them are new" and then it was over. It is a real fast paced spot, they cut from the interior to the exterior and back and forth real fast. |
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Replying to: temj12 (Jun 19, 2005 8:44 pm) it was those "services" and the lojack, post sale. there doesn't seem to be alot of lojack, undercoating, rust proofing, paint treatment discussion on the honda boards so i was wondering if anyone had opinions on this. being offered right after our price negotiation and not having done any research on it, i was thrown for a loop. it was unsettling. Just thought I would post my experience on them so that other buyers could be prepared. I agree, i think got a good price on the car. 22,664 out the door with dest, TTL, wheellocks, mud gards, appearance package (these 3 are on all their cars) for a 2005 accord EX-L 4 cyl auto 4 door sedan. internet quotes are definately the way to go. they are the best starting point IMO. Even before going to the dealership or reading this board, i would start off with internet quotes from all over your area. |
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Edmunds posters are the best! Thanks to many members, but especially to Phil (piturra), I drove home Saturday to the East Bay, CA in my very own Graphite Pearl Accord EX-L 4cyl automatic sedan w/o nav for a bit over $23K OTD! I think it's one of the best prices I've seen online, even though the OTD price was a hair over Phil's price due to a higher tax rate. It was an extremely positive buying experience, mainly because I did my homework and followed the lead of the Edmunds community. Here's how I did it: 1) I used the online price quote feature of edmunds.com and recieved three quotes: from Autowest, Marin and San Leandro. All three were higher than the lowest I've seen so far, and were all between 21500 and 22000 +TTL. 2) I wanted more quotes, so I went to honda.com and got quotes from about ten other dealers (remember, I live in the Bay area so there are so many choices). I got a few calls but most were emails. The range between the highest and lowest prices was over $2000! 2a) Don't use your regular email address for doing this. I used a new gmail account to separate all my quotes from my regular email; this will help in the future as I inevitably receive many, many more emails from dealers... 3) My lowest bid was about $21200, a very good price from a dealer about 45 minutes away (Hayward Honda). He did not have Graphite in stock but had my 2nd and 3rd choices (silver and blue). When I told him he had a good price, he made it even better, telling me that my price would be...$20986.00, the exact price that Phil paid at Anderson! Hmmm...that seems like WAY too much of a coincidence. I told him I would get back to him. 4) Price matching! I called/emailed all but the highest priced dealers to find out if they would match or beat my lowest price. I was surprised that most dealers quickly said "wow, that's a really agressive quote, I can't touch that" or something like that. Even the dealer that promised in their email that they would beat the lowest price by $100 provided I lived within 20 miles of the dealership (I do) would not get anywhere near the lowest price. Two dealers said they would match my lowest price, quote unseen, including the dealer closest to my house (Honda of Oakland). 5) I really had a good feeling from the dealer in Oakland. He did not have Graphite in stock but said he could have it within a few hours, for the same price. Then today he told me he just got a shipment yesterday, with a Graphite on board and a 06/05 build date. We exchanged faxes (I was at work with no external email), he gave me the VIN number and had him meet me at the BART station nearby. He said he'd pick me up in "my car". Cool! The dealer showed up and my car still had all the plastic on the wheel, seats, everything! And the odometer...a whopping 2 miles! 6) Arrived at the dealership and signed quite a few papers, a quick trip to the finance mgr to sign forms, about a 45 minute wait for detailing and a full tank of gas, and my wonderful car was all ready to drive home! Oh, and he gave me a pair of nice metal/graphite Honda keychains with the dealer's name engraved on the back. Here's how the price broke down: CAR: 20986.00 8.75% Sales Tax: 1839.25 Doc Fee: 45.00 License (est): 199.00 Tire Fee: 8.75 Total OTD: 23066.96 (this price was about $60 below my lowest price from Hayward) Wow, what a beautiful car. It feels SO expensive! All the features and extras are a bit much to take in the first few hours. But yesterday was Father's Day so I guess you can say I gave myself a bit of an early FD present. When I pulled up in front my 8 year old daughter saw the car and literally jumped up and down, she was so excited! My other daughter (4) came running out and jumped right in, pushing all the buttons. After we put the kids to bed (I got home at 7:30pm), my wife and I hopped in and played with XM for an hour or so. That is going to be so very very cool, I love XM already! I just cannot say how happy I was with this new way of buying a car. I've used credit union buying services and car brokers before, but this just makes so much more sense. Plus I got a way better deal. I love the graphite and the gray leather, esp. the stainless console up front (I was expecting woodgrain). I will probably post pictures and other impressions on driveaccord.net in the next day or so. But thanks to all of the edmunds community for helping me make a very good and frugal purchase, and thanks to Honda of Oakland for a beautiful Accord. One question...I didn't get any sort of wallet to hold the owner's manual and warranty information. Every previous car I've had came with something like that. Of course, at over 300 pages, the Accord's owners manual is a bit thick. Did you get anything to hold all your paperwork? |
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Replying to: dmaize (Jun 20, 2005 8:30 am) I have the exact same impressions. it feels expensive. and so nice. i paid a little less than you but thats because i only paid 5% tax. 22,664 out the door. I would have the check my documentation to get the breakdown but its nearly the same as yours. (did u get charged extra from the wheel locks, mud guards and appearance package? my quote included those) I got the lojack for 695 + tax and they threw in rust proofing, undercoating and the paint treatment for free. (still not sure if this was a good deal, still looking for feedback from ya'll) our dealer didn't have the graphite grey in stock, but he drove out to another dealership (about 40 miles away) and came back with the car in about 2 hours while we waited in the dealership. it made the car buying day very long though. we got there about 3pm, looked around on the lot for a grey EX-L, didn't find one, we test drove a silver ex-L (both me and my fiance) and got to work negotiating, the dealer left to get the car from the other dealership, they had the options lady come talk to us about the lojack, auto start, back up sensors, undercoating, rustproofing, paint treatment and upolstory treatment, we went to get dinner at a nearby restaurant. came back, the car arrived. we took a short test drive of "our" car, he sent it to the garage to get the detailing, undercoating, rust proofing, paint treatment etc... and about 8:15pm we drove away in our brand new car with a full tank of gas. so about 5.5 hours. Long day. we also didn't get a jacket for our ownership info. didn't even get a honda keychain. we got 2 keys with the alarm, locks, trunk opener and 1 spare key without all the buttons. we have to go back and get the "appearance package" installed when we go and pick up our plates in a few weeks (we got it in writing for the work to be done so they couldn't later claim that it wasn't included). definately, don't use your regular email address. get a free new email address for your car quotes. i've got about 50 quotes and automated messages from dealers. since then I've also emailed the other dealers saying that i bought my car and to take me off their mailing list. it felt good to tell them that, since some of them didn't bother to respond to my emails asking for a better price once i recieved lower quotes from their competitors. Just another way to say: "thanks for your response or lack of response but we found a better price someplace else". enjoy your new graphite grey accord EX-L, I know I will. |
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Replying to: dmaize (Jun 20, 2005 8:30 am) Edmunds posters are the best! Thanks to many members, but especially to Phil (piturra), ... [UnQUOTE] Your welcome dmaize!!! Glad your experience was worth relating here! Taxes do impact the final OTD, but at least California doesn't go crazy with Doc Fee's like some other States related here!  [QUOTE... by dmaize] Wow, what a beautiful car. It feels SO expensive! All the features and extras are a bit much to take in the first few hours. [UnQUOTE] I agree 100% with you! I have over 1,430 miles now (since May 6th) and I look for opportunities to drive my car!!! My MPG AVG = 27.5 (4 tanks of gas - 85% City / 15% Highway)  My dealer spent about half an hour showing me all the different features and options, including where the Sunroof tool and manual opening access panel is located!!! [QUOTE... by dmaize] ... my wife and I hopped in and played with XM for an hour or so. That is going to be so very cool, I love XM already! [UnQUOTE] Yep - I'm a XM fan now  , ...though my wife was not super impressed! She did let me ... 1) Buy the Delphi SkiFi2 Unit w/Home adapter kit (eBay) 2) Subscribe for 3-years ($9.99 a month or approx. $0.33 a day) 3) Send away for the FREE Roady2 w/Car kit! .... a) Requires 3-month subscription - family plan  $6.99 a month. I won't add my Honda XM Radio on the family plan until the Roady2 family plan expires. I'm listening to my Delphi SkiFi2 work right now!!! ('The Lone Ranger' is on right now on Channel 164 - "Old Time Radio" - love this channel, ...not available with the XM Internet on-line 75+ XM channels webpage - ... - the main reason I purchased a home unit) [QUOTE... by dmaize] One question...I didn't get any sort of wallet to hold the owner's manual and warranty information. Every previous car I've had came with something like that. Of course, at over 300 pages, the Accord's owners manual is a bit thick. Did you get anything to hold all your paperwork? [UnQUOTE] I did receive the Dealership's Velcro-Lid Manual Plastic Case for the last 3 Honda vehicles we bought, ... you probably can get a small plastic snap- or velcro-lid case, large enough to encase the manual, etc. Walmart, Target and or Office Depot/Max. NOTE: I didn't get the a pair of nice metal/graphite Honda keychains with the dealer's name engraved on the back. I attached my key to my Star Trek Starfleet Academy keychain from Star Trek Experience, Las Vegas! After seeing the 2006 Accord spy photo's, ... I'm glad I got my 2005!!! Enjoy your car (break-in period is approx. 600 miles) and drive defensively! Phil Pic's of my 2005 Honda Accord 4 cyl. AT EXL PZEV Sedan My Epinions.com 2005 Honda Accord Review
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| Just bought my new accord coupe 1 week ago, dealer quote is $20,533 ($22,569 OTD), which is $1,000 under the invoice. Overall it is a good car, but there are few minor problems: noticed a small tear on the back of the passenger side sun visor, dealer replaced it; some small gaps on the door trim fittings; engine is very quite, but road noise is noticeable. Looks like the price has gone up since I bought it. | |
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Replying to: piturra (Jun 20, 2005 10:14 am) I offered 21000 at Carmichael Honda and was told to have a nice drive to Hayward.
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I'm trying to find a new Accord sedan, LX-V6 in the Oklahoma City area. None of the dealers in the area have any in stock. Is this model hard to find/in short supply for some reason??
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Replying to: rajd1974 (Jun 12, 2005 6:53 am) "You are wrong. The only variant accross states is the Octane rating and this is because of altitude and not some laws. You can always choose the Octane you want to place in your car. As for the additives or detergents that individual companies [shell, chevron etc], these are nothing but marketing hype to distinguish their fuels within themselves and introduce the "stickiness" factor so that they can charge a bit more. If there were variations in fuel accross states, then it would be specified by the body that overlooks the specifications in fuels." Rajd1974, You really outta check your facts before you tell someone they're wrong. Gasoline sold in California is a state-specific RFG (Re-Formulated Gasoline). Its affect on the durability of a car's emissions system has nothing to do with octane or detergents, and everything to do with sulfur. All octane indicates is how resistant a gasoline is to exploding (bad) instead of burning (good) in your engine's combustion chambers. By the time the exhaust gasses hit the catalyst, the octane has already done its job. California Air Resource Board (CARB) requires refiners sell only California RFG in the state because our air quality does not meet federal EPA requirements. The "Re-Formulated" part refers to chemical additives to optimize combustion (which, after all, is a chemical reaction) and also to strict limits on other chemicals; far stricter than other states except for a few in the Northeast, where Honda also sells its PZEV models. For our primary additive, we first tried MTBE (ether), then that was determined to cause more environmental problems than it soved, so now they're just giving CA gas a mega dose of ethanol. This acts as an oxygenate, causing a cleaner burn. As far as the limits on other chemical compounds (here's the important part), CA gas is also very low-sulfur, which is primarily to preserve our cars' catalytic converters. "Marketing" ha! This is one of several reasons CA gasoline is almost always the most expensive in the country - gasoline refined for other states, right here in California refineries, can't legally be sold here! My assertion that it may not be a good idea to run a car with the higher-performance (and more delicate) catalytic converters such as the Accord PZEV exclusively on non-RFG is a good question for an engineer, not necessarily a mechanic or even a guy who thinks he knows it all (I imagine you slept at Holiday Inn Express last night). |
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