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Honda Accord, Coupe, Sedan
#31629 of 32228 Re: EX-L [squashpile]
Oct 21, 2013 (10:01 am)
Call dealership.......... You want answers ... So do i
Call your quoted dealership and ask some very important questions. Never Assume price from a dealer/ salesman will ripped you off if you do not educate yourself on pricing. Which will be your fault for being lazy.
Find out what the selling price of vehicle is?
Does this price include dest charge?
What are that dealerships doc fee charge ?
Is that dealership offering any flex money on a 2014 model ? was it included in your price. Can you get flex on a 2014 model if you finance thru that dealership?
Your target price to buy should be no less than $1500 to 2000 below dealers invoice price without taxes, dmv fee's.
If dealerships are offering flex cash on a 2013 model i would be negotiating for that 2k mark if not more.
#31630 of 32228 Re: 2014 Honda Accord Sport 6MT [Michaell@Edmunds]
Oct 21, 2013 (9:51 am)
I guess I should call myself "isoldhondas" since I retired three years ago.
Michaell, we haven't disagreed on too many things and I appreciate the fact you know I never used these forums to promote business.
It used to be very frustrating when a customer would come to me and tell me how he read on some forum how someone else bought a car for X number of dollars when I KNEW that never happened!
I never knew if that poster didn't remember exactly what he paid, if a trade in had been involved if it were just puffery or one-upmanship on the part of the
person who posted a false number.
I even lost a longtime customer once that I had sold five or six cars to. He bought a new Odyssey and somehow looked in some forum how someone had bought one for some price that never happened.
He told me I had taken advantage of our relationship and never bought another car from me.
I have no dog in this fight and if it isn't real, I don't post it.
Lastly, in the 17 plus years I've been around these forums I have seen a lot of "experts" come and go.
Carry on and enjoy your new Accords!
#31632 of 32228 Re: 2014 Honda Accord Sport 6MT [bluemkn57cars]
Oct 21, 2013 (9:59 am)
blue, "no haggle" dealerships usually don't last long.
People say they want a great no haggle price and a few actually do.
The majority, however will simply write down that price and use it to have another store beat it. It's a no win situation.
In my later years, the majority of my business was to repeat and referral customers. I didn't take many "fresh ups"
I was never foolish enough to give a customer a hard number to shop and I was always happy when another store would do that.
It always amazed me how many hours and how many miles some people would drive to save 100.00. Yes, 100.00
I would have LOVED having a "no dicker" sticker but I wouldn't have sold many cars!
#31633 of 32228 Re: 2014 Honda Accord Sport 6MT [isellhondas]
Oct 21, 2013 (10:35 am)
"People say they want a great no haggle price and a few actually do. " I am part of that minority
I have seen a few ads on tv here in MA about no haggle dealerships recently. I think it was this one: http://www.harr.com/index.htm (non-Honda dealer). You can read more about their "No Negotiation Required" tag line: http://www.harr.com/perfect-pricing.htm. A few Honda dealers in the Boston metro area have similar tag lines:
- Honda North : One Stop, No Hassle, Value Pricing (http://www.hondanorth.com/purchasing-made-simple.htm)
- Weymouth Honda : Where there is NO fine print! (http://www.weymouthhonda.com/)
I did not end up buying from any of those two dealerships. Honda North did not have the lowest price and they played too many games with me. Although, Weymouth Honda claims to have some of the best pricing and no fine print, their price was not competitive.
Let's see how long these dealerships stay in Business.
#31634 of 32228 Re: EX-L [squashpile]
Oct 21, 2013 (10:22 am)
Why the heck would you buy a '13 for only 400 less than a 14. THINK ABOUT THIS FOR JUST A MOMENT. Do you ever plan to sell the car? Never ever? Then maybe its worth it. But hardly anyone says they will NEVER sell the car. When it comes time to sell, and the date is June 12, 2017 or whatever, go plug in the values for a 2013 car vs a 2014 with same miles. It will be like 1500-2500 lower on the 2013 with same miles. So you got a discount of 400 YAYYYY! but you'll lose more than that when it comes time to sell. Nobody cares whether it was a Day 2 2013 or a Day 357 2013......it is a 2013.......
#31635 of 32228 Re: 2014 Honda Accord Sport 6MT [isellhondas]
Oct 21, 2013 (10:27 am)
[It always amazed me how many hours and how many miles some people would drive to save 100.00. Yes, 100.00 ]
I know people say this, but I will drive over to Menards rather than Home Depot to save 3.00 on something. I agree there can be stupidity like driving 2 hrs round trip and wasting gas and time just to save $100, but by the same token just because $100 is less of a PERCENTAGE of the overall purchase price doesn't mean it still isn't worth $100 in real money. If you were buying $110 in groceries and I told you that if you drove 25 minutes to a different suburb and you could get the same groceries for $10 because there was a FREE HUNDRED DOLLAR COUPON you got in the mail for groceries, you don't think lots and lots of people would say Holy Shnikes - yeah I'll drive over to that market to get $100 in free groceries! Economically what's the difference? There is none....
#31636 of 32228 Re: EX-L [hogan773]
Oct 21, 2013 (10:27 am)
I'm not and I agree. I was just posting what I was told. That is nuts only $400.
It would d have to be 2-3K at least I would think. I though his '14 was reasonable, but I'm not sure. I'm going to keep checking on '13 models.
#31637 of 32228 Re: EX-L [squashpile]
Oct 21, 2013 (10:38 am)
Yeah my guess is they will sell any remaining '13s for much more than 2-3K off (that doesn't mean it is a good deal by the way)......
I think people don't really think through the logic, so a good salesman can say "Hey listen, I have a great deal right now on a 2013. My boss is pressuring me to move it to make way for 2014s. IT IS THE SAME EXACT CAR! How about I give you $500 off and we make a deal...will really win me points with the boss, and you are getting the SAME CAR and pocketing $500! $500 is a lot of money! Deal???"
And there will be people that will bite on that all day long, because they are just focusing on two sound bites "SAME EXACT CAR" and "500 CASH SAVINGS"
When it comes time to sell, if they thought about it, they'd do a "D'OH" facepalm.....
#31638 of 32228 Re: EX-L [hogan773]
Oct 21, 2013 (10:41 am)
This subject has been posted quite a few times by me. If your late model 2013 Accord is totaled or stolen in that first year you stand to lose the most money. At this time of the year you want to buy a 2013 closer to 2k. At 400 to 800 in price difference between years the 2014 should be your clear cut choice. Unless your keeping vehicle 7 or more years. At 6 years or more is when both years are about 1500 dollars apart.