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Honda Accord, Coupe, Sedan
#31369 of 32200 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EX - L 4CLY [isellhondas]
Sep 26, 2013 (6:19 pm)
as if dealers are pure angels....
it's just a game and whoever wants the deal the most usually are the ones that loses.
but in the end it's a two way street. my sales person was very nice and I gave him a great survey. people just need to do their proper research and find a price that they're willing to pay that's all.
you guys are all right though it's all supply and demand like everything else in this world
#31370 of 32200 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EX - L 4CLY [isellhondas]
Sep 27, 2013 (4:32 am)
I have a sickening/ but true Car story... i think you can relate to.. Bob buys a 2013 jeep 3 days ago. He walks into the dealership and strikes a deal for 900 above dealers invoice price. The Salesman tells him there is just one jeep left and someone else put a deposit down but cant afford it . Salesman tells bob You can have it i'll even knock off 100 dollars off this already great price i'm giving you. Bob agree's and pays for vehicle plus a 399 doc fee charge. What bob does not know is that same vehicle sells for close to 1700 below invoice right now for a informed/ Educated, savy buyer.
Dealer would rather sell to poor bob than me especially for my price. This is supply and demand........... Isell this happens every day in the real world. I bet that salesman made bobs buying experience very special and stress free.
Why would any dealer need my business with limited stock when there are thousands of Bobs buying cars.
Folks are getting ripped off. Being lazy and not educating themselves on car buying/ pricing means.............. they get what they deserve. I'm happy for the dealerships god bless them. The flip side is the educated buyer who will challenge you on pricing and negotiate just as good if not better than the car people. God bless us. You hate it. Its ripping a hole threw your heart. i can feel your pain with every posting.
And here is the moral of this story. I know Bob!!!! And so do you.
#31371 of 32200 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EX - L 4CLY [brian125]
Sep 27, 2013 (8:37 am)
Brian Brian Brian - I love ya like a brother man, but what the heck are you saying? That it's the Dealer's fault that Bob went in to buy a vehicle at a price he agreed to? That it's the dealer's fault that Bob didn't do his homework to get the lowest possible price (if he wanted to). That the dealer doesn't have the right to sell a vehicle at a price that is agreeable to both parties? My philosophy is I have a right to negotiate the best price I can and the dealer has a right to sell at a price that makes sense to him/her to stay in business. Most of us on these sites have acquired a great deal of car buying knowledge which helps us get great deals. Where I differ with what you state in your post is I don't think it's the Dealer's fault if an uninformed buyer comes in and buys a vehicle at a price agreeable to both. Now if they use unethical tactics or charge an out of line "doc" fee, hopefully they are exposed and consumers alerted to avoid them.
I don't think Isell "hates it" or that it's ripping a hole "through" his heart - I think you misjudge him and his intent. I don't hear that in his posts. My 30 years of military experience, 22 as an officer, helped me become a fairly good judge of people (my opinion - don't flame). I don't recall seeing anything but respectful and informative info come from Isell. The good thing is if you don't freaking agree with what he has to say, you can just ignore it and move on.
Hey, I'll let ya go now so you can go tell Bob about Edmunds and that he should've waited til the last two days of the month (just yanking your chain).
#31372 of 32200 Re: v6 sedan 2014 [cardionp]
Sep 27, 2013 (9:54 am)
Hi cardionp, what dealership did you get that price from? Thank you!
#31373 of 32200 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EX - L 4CLY [cl171]
Sep 27, 2013 (11:38 am)
When I was looking to buy my 2013 Accord EX-L last month in MA, I had reached out to Boch Honda. Their price was not competitive and they did not have my color in stock. There was also no flex cash available. Hence, I had no further dealings with them.
If you were able to negotiate a sale price of $1550 below invoice for a 2014 model in the color of your choice, and at this time of the year, then kudos to you.
Some of us (including myself) were a little skepital of your sale price, given the market in this area and the recorded pricing paid by some forum contributors recently on 2014 models.
Enjoy your car.
#31374 of 32200 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EX - L 4CLY [gmanusmc]
Sep 27, 2013 (12:35 pm)
You have miss my point. God bless that dealer if he could get 900 above invoice price from bob. It is the dealers right . Bob deserves what he gets. Most educated buyers can get 1500 or more below at this time of the year for bobs jeep but That is not what i'm talking about in this case of supply and demand
This is my point
When there is a limited stock on dealerships lots its folks like bob who dealers know they will sell for alot more than us educated buyers.
That is why people in hear are saying how come dealer is quoting me only xxx dollars below invoice price on a 2013 model thats 10 months old..... Guys like bob
Thats the reason why we see pricing on the 2013 Accord reverting higher in price with alot of dealerships.............. Bob
#31375 of 32200 Re: Accord EX 2013 [iffi]
Sep 27, 2013 (11:47 am)
Good luck negotiating a deal below invoice at the end of the month.
#31376 of 32200 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EX - L 4CLY [gmanusmc]
Sep 27, 2013 (11:51 am)
Bill, I think you are misreading Brian's response. I believe he was responding to Isell's claim that it's just a matter of supply and demand. I'm sure you will agree, supply and demand applies only in a macro sense, you can certainly get a good deal if supply is high and demand is low but no dealer is going to volunteer that at first, they will wait to see if the customer bites. Yes, the uninformed buyer may not take advanatage of the supply/demand dynamics but the dealer will if demand is greater that supply and will not acknowledge it when supply is greater than demand.
#31377 of 32200 Re: Price pd on 2013 EX-L Accord [etienne39]
Sep 27, 2013 (11:59 am)
Etienne, there’s no reason why I should need to call Holler Honda about their “Return” policy. Don’t you have all the legalese in the documents you were given when you purchased your car or did your “experienced salesman” conveniently omit that from your packet? You can post that for our review. No doubt, unless you asked for it upfront, it was not provided to you since you would clearly see it would not be economically feasible to exchange the car.
Sorry to inform you, but you should know that “experienced salesmen” don’t exactly have a reputation for honesty, integrity and transparency. I’ll break the news about Santa Claus and the tooth fairy another time
#31378 of 32200 supply and demand
Sep 27, 2013 (12:39 pm)
That was exactly my point. isell loves to stir me up. he loves it......lol
I even stuck up for the car salesman about lying to them. I pointed out that poster was going about negotiating the wrong way.
I may negotiate hard and play dirty but every dealer i talk with knows exactly where i'm comming from. So the ball is in his court til he plays games. Honest answers get my respect. I'm not Bob. You dont want to be like bob not doing his homework 1st before buying.
That is the problem today to many dealership think everyone is like bob.