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Honda Accord, Coupe, Sedan
#31364 of 32206 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EX - L 4CLY [cl171]
Sep 26, 2013 (3:29 pm)
Listen your strategy may work but not at this time of the year with very limited 2013/2014 stock on most of these dealerships lots. Limited stock means dealers dont need your business for that vehicle.. limited 2014 models means honda will not sell at pricing we see now. This is Supply and demand. The uneducated buyer who walks in that dealership will by that car not knowing he is getting ripped off. Thats who these dealers are preying on right now.
Any one buying up in boston should use this posters as a referral buy.
all you need is posters 1st name, and first name of person he dealt with for a similar deal of 1550 below invoice on a 2014 model minus the 350 doc fee's.
Telling any dealership you have a deposit on a vehicle and your calling them for pricing means your lying and that dealership will identify you and play games or simply wont deal with you. The games and tactics you are using are basic and not effective. I think you should read some of my posts to understand buying and how to play the game better.
#31365 of 32206 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EX - L 4CLY [brian125]
Sep 26, 2013 (3:42 pm)
great points. I think I got really lucky with my purchase.
Good luck to all that are in the market!
Def. Buy before the month is over.
#31366 of 32206 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EX - L 4CLY [cl171]
Sep 26, 2013 (3:59 pm)
Wow. Great price.
Sep 26, 2013 (4:35 pm)
I hope I did ok. I'm finally ready to leap. I doinked around too long with 2013 and selection became sparse. I could not get anyone to answer me on these forums for some reason but I watched and I read and I went for the 2014 v6 sedan. We settled at 1000 below invoice. 27,500. I'm not sure I want to know if I could have done better. From everything I read I think I did ok.
#31368 of 32206 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EX - L 4CLY [brian125]
Sep 26, 2013 (5:11 pm)
Yes, Brian it IS Supply and Demand that determines pricing.
You stated.." Dealers don't need your business"
Actually, they DO need your business. They just don't want to cheap sell a car when there is no reason to...remember...Supply and Demand.
Customers aren't getting "ripped off" nor are they being "prayed on" when they are paying market value for a car or anything else for that matter.
Finally, you are correct about lying to a dealer. They know when you are lying and they WILL quickly lose respect and interest. I know I sure did.
All of the "games and tactics" a crafty shopper can pull have been seen many times in the past.
It really doesn't have to be a miserable, combative experience. It can even be fun as I tried to make it for my customers.
#31369 of 32206 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EX - L 4CLY [isellhondas]
Sep 26, 2013 (6:19 pm)
as if dealers are pure angels....
it's just a game and whoever wants the deal the most usually are the ones that loses.
but in the end it's a two way street. my sales person was very nice and I gave him a great survey. people just need to do their proper research and find a price that they're willing to pay that's all.
you guys are all right though it's all supply and demand like everything else in this world
#31370 of 32206 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EX - L 4CLY [isellhondas]
Sep 27, 2013 (4:32 am)
I have a sickening/ but true Car story... i think you can relate to.. Bob buys a 2013 jeep 3 days ago. He walks into the dealership and strikes a deal for 900 above dealers invoice price. The Salesman tells him there is just one jeep left and someone else put a deposit down but cant afford it . Salesman tells bob You can have it i'll even knock off 100 dollars off this already great price i'm giving you. Bob agree's and pays for vehicle plus a 399 doc fee charge. What bob does not know is that same vehicle sells for close to 1700 below invoice right now for a informed/ Educated, savy buyer.
Dealer would rather sell to poor bob than me especially for my price. This is supply and demand........... Isell this happens every day in the real world. I bet that salesman made bobs buying experience very special and stress free.
Why would any dealer need my business with limited stock when there are thousands of Bobs buying cars.
Folks are getting ripped off. Being lazy and not educating themselves on car buying/ pricing means.............. they get what they deserve. I'm happy for the dealerships god bless them. The flip side is the educated buyer who will challenge you on pricing and negotiate just as good if not better than the car people. God bless us. You hate it. Its ripping a hole threw your heart. i can feel your pain with every posting.
And here is the moral of this story. I know Bob!!!! And so do you.
#31371 of 32206 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EX - L 4CLY [brian125]
Sep 27, 2013 (8:37 am)
Brian Brian Brian - I love ya like a brother man, but what the heck are you saying? That it's the Dealer's fault that Bob went in to buy a vehicle at a price he agreed to? That it's the dealer's fault that Bob didn't do his homework to get the lowest possible price (if he wanted to). That the dealer doesn't have the right to sell a vehicle at a price that is agreeable to both parties? My philosophy is I have a right to negotiate the best price I can and the dealer has a right to sell at a price that makes sense to him/her to stay in business. Most of us on these sites have acquired a great deal of car buying knowledge which helps us get great deals. Where I differ with what you state in your post is I don't think it's the Dealer's fault if an uninformed buyer comes in and buys a vehicle at a price agreeable to both. Now if they use unethical tactics or charge an out of line "doc" fee, hopefully they are exposed and consumers alerted to avoid them.
I don't think Isell "hates it" or that it's ripping a hole "through" his heart - I think you misjudge him and his intent. I don't hear that in his posts. My 30 years of military experience, 22 as an officer, helped me become a fairly good judge of people (my opinion - don't flame). I don't recall seeing anything but respectful and informative info come from Isell. The good thing is if you don't freaking agree with what he has to say, you can just ignore it and move on.
Hey, I'll let ya go now so you can go tell Bob about Edmunds and that he should've waited til the last two days of the month (just yanking your chain).
#31372 of 32206 Re: v6 sedan 2014 [cardionp]
Sep 27, 2013 (9:54 am)
Hi cardionp, what dealership did you get that price from? Thank you!
#31373 of 32206 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EX - L 4CLY [cl171]
Sep 27, 2013 (11:38 am)
When I was looking to buy my 2013 Accord EX-L last month in MA, I had reached out to Boch Honda. Their price was not competitive and they did not have my color in stock. There was also no flex cash available. Hence, I had no further dealings with them.
If you were able to negotiate a sale price of $1550 below invoice for a 2014 model in the color of your choice, and at this time of the year, then kudos to you.
Some of us (including myself) were a little skepital of your sale price, given the market in this area and the recorded pricing paid by some forum contributors recently on 2014 models.
Enjoy your car.