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Honda Accord, Coupe, Sedan
#31263 of 32226 Re: 2013 Honda Accord EX-L lease question [brian125]
Sep 20, 2013 (5:50 pm)
I appreciate the kind words, but I do not think anyone will be able to fill your shoes whenever you decide to step down. Your advice is spot on and given your years of experience along with your knowledge of the car buying game, it will take me years to even come close to that. I am humbled.
I have been reading a lot of posts these past few months/weeks, and you have given the same advice over and over again about how to go about negotiating the best deal on a car. I am a perfect example that your tips do work as long as it is followed to the t. Some car salesmen are sleazeballs. Some still try to convince us (consumers) that the deal they are offering us on a car is only good TODAY. In this day and age, no one should be falling for those cheap tricks.
I am not going to lie, but car searching takes time and dedication. I have heard some crazy things coming out of the mouth of salesmen such as "the car was sold last night" and "I cannot guarantee that flex cash will be available if I cannot get the car for you in 24 hours".
This forum helps us become more informed buyers and also levels the playing field. Some car dealers know that, but they still think they can use some of these old tricks. It might work on some people, but those of us reading all these posts in this forum should not fall for any of this BS. That is why when I offer advice, I tell everyone to either hang up on a salesman who is not being forthcoming on the phone, or walk out of a dealership when you sense your time is being wasted. I have done both of these things when I was car shopping. I believe you have also offered similar advice on numerous occasions.
I have noticed a few newbies on this forum who do not always provide the required information when asking for advice. Some do not always read previous posts about how to go about contacting car dealers at the end of the month and offering to buy today. Others do not follow all the advice being provided, but decide to use their own negotiating tactics.
At the end of the day, it is all about getting the best deal on a new car in your area and not being frustrated in the process. We (consumers) also have to be realistic and be aware of the market in our area (You have also said that quite a few times).
Keep the great advice coming, Brian. I wished you could come up with a blog listing your Top 10 or Top 20 Car Buying Tips.
#31264 of 32226 2014 Accord Ex-L
Sep 20, 2013 (6:49 pm)
Ok here is the best quote i've received. Asking me to come in tomorrow. What do you folks think?
Accord EX-L. Provided a Vin number as well.
MSRP 29, 065
INVOICE 26, 560 (doesnt match my invoice number but close enough)
SALE PRICE 26, 600 - 500 (FLEX) = 26,100 sale price just around invoice but dropping 500 for flex which I didn't think existed on 2014 so not sure what/how.
+ 75 (Documentation Fee) + 275 DMV + 2347.44 (8.875% Tax) = 28,797.44 OTD
the $275 DMV seems high but salesperson said that is an estimate and can go lower. Overall, numbers look good to me. Do I buy or wait until last 2 days of september? I'm a little troubled that invoice doesn't match what we believe to be invoice and offering a flex number that doesn't exist in 2014 models. Salesperson insists no games and i will get OTD price. Any feedback appreciated.
#31265 of 32226 Re: 2014 Accord Ex-L [mistersc]
Sep 20, 2013 (9:22 pm)
FYI: That's very close to my OTD price for a 2014 EX-L in Los Angeles. Here are my numbers:
Price offered: $26,100
Add on: $499 (pro-pack)*
Flex cash: -$500
Doc fees: $80
OTD with 9% taxes & title: $28,887
* Includes mud guards, wheel locks, and trunk tray. Note that my package is the better value because of the add-on and 0.25% higher tax. I would hope that you can negotiate your price lower.
#31266 of 32226 Re: 2014 Accord Ex-L [mistersc]
Sep 21, 2013 (5:22 am)
here is your breakdown on price on 2014 exl
Invoice...............25,860 + 790 dest/charge= 26,650
Do not rush this deal Dealers are always putting pressure on us / to hurry up come down right away.. Blah ,blah ,blah. Your in control you set the tone..
Call back this dealership and ask him again... does vehicle sale price of 26,600 include the destination charge??? If not tell him your looking to buy at invoice price and then if he wants you will finance the car thru honda to get a additional 500 off this deal.
No matter what he tells you today tell dealership you want to think over his offer ................... Also
Ask dealer how much you need to finance to receive flex money.
Does dealer have your car on his lot.
Your dmv fee's will be adjusted to just under 200.
If your Satisfied with this deal there is no reason to wait til the last 2 days of this month ...go close deal if dest charge was included in the 26,600 price.
If this deal does not work out i have confirmed with a NJ dealership he will sell a 2014 model for invoice. I would suspect that a end of the month sale would mean going below invoice if he needs sales. On Flex cash dealers seem to use it as they see fit. there are a few honda dealers applying flex cash to 2014 CRV's.
#31267 of 32226 Re: 2013 Honda Accord EX-L lease question [brian125]
Sep 21, 2013 (5:29 am)
Hey Brian125, looking to buy latest end of the month. In NYC area. 2013 or 2014 accord sport, Order of preference for exterior colors;blue, steel, black. interior color black. Would rather get the 2013 if there are still great deals left and 0.9 financing. Been lurking on the forum. No need to half ass attempt the pricing, i am ready to buy. = ). Your help is much appreciated.
#31268 of 32226 2014 Honda Accord Sedan EX-L with Nav 4 cyl in Florida
Sep 21, 2013 (6:37 am)
I've been following along with the forum, using brian's advice. I've received in writing two detailed quotes. In the forum, we've talked about destination/deliver & doc fees. However, I see that there'a a few other fees. Need help in determining what these are please-
Non Tax Fees
Taxable Fees (estimated)
Thanks so much for your help!
#31269 of 32226 Re: 2014 Accord Ex-L [brian125]
Sep 21, 2013 (7:23 am)
Thank you Brian. I will do as suggested. In my original inquiry, I asked for Sales Price including destination and the out the door price so expecting it to include the destination, but will ask again before driving 90 mts. from my house. They have car in stock and gave me vin number. As i see the note from california with additional dealer add ons, and factoring your advice, I am going to tell dealer i am thinking this over and not go in today.
#31270 of 32226 Re: 2014 Honda Accord Sedan EX-L with Nav 4 cyl in Florida [rivhil]
Sep 21, 2013 (9:10 am)
Invoice price with destination fee for this car is $28,269.
What are the quotes you have received so far?
With regards to the fees you have listed, you need to ask the dealer what they are for.
The only fees you should see listed are dealer documentation fees, title and registration fees.
You also listed accessories. Are you purchasing any dealer-add ons? If not, then you should either ask the dealer to find you a car without any accessories or list the price of all the accessories you will be purchasing.
#31271 of 32226 Re: 2013 Honda Accord EX-L lease question [andy718]
Sep 21, 2013 (9:22 am)
Color choice may be a problem on a 2013 with very limited stock. Call/ email today a handful of dealerships to see who has your model and color 2013. If you find your model that is the dealerships you negotiate with on both years.
keep a eye on Mistersc post he is at invoice price and maybe below due to flex cash money on a 2014 model. We need to ask what dealership he is dealing with.
#31272 of 32226 Re: 2014 Accord Ex-L [mistersc]
Sep 21, 2013 (9:40 am)
I'm sure you will be pretty pissed off if you drive 90 mins to find out they deceived you and did not add the 790 dest/charge onto the deal. Always cover yourself with pricing. Dealers have a funny way of forgetting certain price items making it look like a honest mistake hoping to get you in the showroom.