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Honda Accord, Coupe, Sedan
#31202 of 32213 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EXL 4 cylinder [moesobo]
Sep 18, 2013 (7:53 am)
If the base price already includes the cost of the dealer add-ons, then it would be best if you could list the price of the car without any add-ons.
Your listed OTD price includes the base price of the car plus dealer doc fees, tag and title fees, and sales tax. Hence, I am trying to figure out how much you are being charged for all these add-ons in order to tell whether you are getting a good deal. The only price I see is $100 for window tinting from dealer A.
Am I missing something here? BTW, did you try asking any of the dealers to reduce their doc fees?
I am sure Brian will provide his input soon.
#31203 of 32213 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EXL 4 cylinder [bluemkn57cars]
Sep 18, 2013 (8:38 am)
I apologize. My head is starting to ache over this damn car which I am sure is what they want!!! My base guaranteed price through USAA is supposed to be $25,300 on this car with destination and regional fee included (USAA price does not include dealer fees or options added) So, I guess that means that the options are costing me $572.82 total. The tinted windows for $100 were negotiated but will be in addition to the option price I just mentioned.
They will not negotiate dealers fees in Florida other than just working on the price. I have found that with 8 dealerships. Here is the response from this dealer on our deal too for some side info:
"Invoice on the car before any accessories is $26,650.10
Your purchase price WITH accessories is $25,872.82
Hold back on the car is $989.45 so in essence your are paying $212.17 above true dealer cost before any accessories which is less then 1%. We are in business to make a profit even if it's a small one"
#31204 of 32213 Re: 2013 Honda accord LX, TX [hhhh12]
Sep 18, 2013 (8:58 am)
I bought one about a month ago, around 22,300 OTD, from Russel and Smith in Houston
#31205 of 32213 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EXL 4 cylinder [moesobo]
Sep 18, 2013 (11:00 am)
Did the dealer with the best offer list the individual prices of all the add-ons?
The MSRP for some of these options on Honda's website (without installation cost) is as follows:
1. Door Edge Guards ($95)
2. Mud Guards/ Splash Guards ($104)
3. Body Side Molding ($225)
4. Wheel Locks ($56)
5. Trunk Tray ($139)
6. Standard Mats (do you mean all season floor mats?)
7. Pin-Striping (no price listed but I hear it is an inexpensive option)
8. Tint for $100 extra
Total without tint = $619 (assuming MSRP and no installation charges). You could try and negotiate a better deal for the dealer add-ons, but I would like other forum contributors who have more experience to chime in and offer their feedback.
The USAA sales price is good deal since it is $1350 below invoice, before the atrocious $898 doc fees. Try and see if the dealer would lower the sales price of the car and/or throw in some accessories for free to counter those doc fees.
#31206 of 32213 2013 Honda Accord EX-L lease question
Sep 18, 2013 (9:55 am)
would appreciate any thoughts/comments on the following:
2013 Honda Accord EX-L, no NAV. I lost the notes I took, but it's $355 a month, all fees, taxes, etc are in the lease. I only pay the first month payment of 355 at signing. Thoughts?
#31207 of 32213 Re: 2013 Honda Accord EX-L lease question [jonesing4car]
Sep 18, 2013 (9:58 am)
Forgot to mention that it's a 2013 Accord EX-L, 4 cylinder CVT. 12k miles. 36 months.
#31208 of 32213 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EXL 4 cylinder [bluemkn57cars]
Sep 18, 2013 (12:45 pm)
Here is the response I got from Dealer C. Dealer A's response will be below that. One dealer says the holdback is $559 and the other says it is $989. Can you guys please tell me if this is correct from them or not? I can't make their numbers jive with mine.
Below is the real numbers on a 2014 Honda Accord EX-L CVT:
Dealer Invoice: $25,609.00
Actual Cost of Vehicle: $26,399.00
Hold Back: $$559.90
In order to sell this vehicle for $28,500 OTD the starting price is less than the actual cost of the vehicle.
Sales Price: $26,106.74
Dealer Fee: $599
Total Balance: $28,500.00
Also, we are charging zero for dealer options.
In our previous quote we just discounted the vehicle more to cover cost of dealer options. In the above numbers we took them out of the equation.
We can go round and round on the numbers but I can't do any better then I already have. You're omitting labor charges to install the equipment, you're buying the car for less then the invoice minus the hold back combined and USAA doesn't calculate labor charges or dealer installed accessories.
I've even tried to help you and even giving to you for $500.00 less the we spoke about which is $28,166.90 out -the-door since you can't use flex cash on the 2014's. I'm sorry but I have no where else to go!!
#31209 of 32213 Re: 2014 Accord Sedan EX-L V6 [ken117]
Sep 18, 2013 (5:14 pm)
Thanks Ken for the recommendation! I checked out Earl Stewart on Cars and lam learning a lot of things to understand & watch out for.
#31210 of 32213 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EXL 4 cylinder [moesobo]
Sep 18, 2013 (5:35 pm)
Dealer hold back is 2% of base msrp. $ 559 seems about right not 989.
First off moesbo relax it is only Sept 18th do not rush this deal.. Sit back and wait a week before you start negotiations up again. At the End of this month is the 3rd quarter end for car companies and most likely you will get the best deal last 2 days, last day of this month. Play the game!!!! you have 3 dealerships that are close in price. Make your best deal with one of them.
Your problem is you have a 2014 model vehicle with alot of added accessories if i read correctly.
Dealer A........ it seems you have lost leverage with him. You are going about negotiating the wrong way with him which will lead to a no sale from him.
When you negotiate a deal in the middle of the month its best to leave dealer with ......... this is my price to buy right now.... think it over, call me if you want this sale. i would mention your considering traveling out of state if no local dealers meet your price .... then wait til end of the month to re start negotiations.
At the end of the month if dealership is saying this is my bottom line moe you either take it or leave it.
Dealer A- has vehicle with splash guards, window tint, door edge, truck mat. paper pin stripe, regular mats are included in price.
Dealer A- knows for a fact he could herb out that vehicle to a walk in store buyer thats clueless on price. He has the upper hand and leverage on you. Wait til the end of the month to get some pricing leverage back.
#31211 of 32213 Honda 2014 EX-L NY Area
Sep 18, 2013 (6:21 pm)
Is there anyone out there getting below invoice price that can share the name of a dealer in NY area? Does it pay to wait a couple of weeks for inventories to rise?