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#31197 of 32216 2014 Honda Accord EXL 4 cylinder
Sep 18, 2013 (7:12 am)
Bluemkn57cars and Brian125 and anyone else,
Here are my final bids (narrowed it down to three dealers) on the 2014 Honda Accord EXL 4 cylinder (MSRP $29,060 including destination). I think I am going to go with dealer A if you all approve of my deal. The car will be at the dealership today. These three bids were very close. I was able to secure $500 flex cash on the 2014 with Honda financing. It is taken off at the bottom under the OTD pricing.
2014 Honda Accord EXL 4 cyl blk/blk
(MSRP $29,060: Includes Destination)
Honda A Honda B Honda C
Base Price $25, 872.82 $26,000 $26,043.53
Tax 7% $1,662.58 $1,668.92
Est Tag Transfer/State Fees $263.50 $220.75 + $57.00 elect tag
Dealer Fee $898 $699 $599
Dealer Options/Perks Included:
Door Edge Guards yes no no
Nitrogen In Tires no yes yes
Mud Guards yes yes yes
Body Side Molding yes yes no
Wheel Locks yes yes yes
Trunk Tray yes yes yes
Standard Mats yes yes yes
Pin-Striping yes ? yes
Tinted Windows $100 ? yes
Tires switched to OEM Michelin MXV4 no yes yes
$500 Flex Cash Available (Honda Finace) yes ? yes
USAA Dealer Rate(.50 off best $1.99 rate yes no yes
Deposit Required To Get Car no ? yes
Car available on lot now yes no no
Total OTD price before flex cash $28,696.90 $28,619.00 $29,000
Less $500 Flex if Honda Financing Used $28,196.90 ? $28,500
Money from recent referral $100 check n/a n/a
(using Honda Financing)
2.74% at 78 months ($28,196.90) $395.06
1.99% at 66 months ($28,196.90) $451.26
(using C1CU Financing pre-approved)
2.74% at 78 months ($28,696.90) $402.06
1.98 % at 66 months ($28,696.90) $459.26
*Note: I am going with a longer term since we had a car totaled and need to replace it but we are in the middle of building a house with a mortgage pending*
#31198 of 32216 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EXL 4 cylinder [moesobo]
Sep 18, 2013 (7:15 am)
Sorry that it scrambled my information. Hopefully you can see the dealers A, B, C and then figure out how each thing aligns. Sorry!
#31199 of 32216 Re: How to calculate total OTD price [bluemkn57cars]
Sep 18, 2013 (7:15 am)
Blue - I think it's obvious that 699-799 doc fees are outrageous. I was merely pointing out to ken that we've had this discussion on this forum recently and were directed by a forum official to end the discussion. I agree with Ken's theory but a few members have stated the don't (I think you included). I think most of us are smart enough to adjust our negotiation technique to account for the doc fee stuff - we should probably just leave it at that.
#31200 of 32216 Re: How to calculate total OTD price [gmanusmc]
Sep 18, 2013 (7:26 am)
#31201 of 32216 Re: 2014 EX-L NY Area [bluemkn57cars]
Sep 18, 2013 (7:37 am)
Thank you very much for your comprehensive response. Lots of useful information here and I will follow your guidance. To date, I've contacted 3 dealers in long island, NY and none willing to offer a competitive price with all asking me to come into dealership to get better pricing. It came to the point, where I was questioning why bother with the internet as the only thing they do is take your information and then talk you into coming in the dealership. I will try to reach as many dealers as I can to see who has the most competitive price and if I can get any to give me a bottom line price without coming in. I will update everyone as I make progress and if someone has a local NY area dealer offering a good below invoice price, please post here.
#31202 of 32216 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EXL 4 cylinder [moesobo]
Sep 18, 2013 (7:53 am)
If the base price already includes the cost of the dealer add-ons, then it would be best if you could list the price of the car without any add-ons.
Your listed OTD price includes the base price of the car plus dealer doc fees, tag and title fees, and sales tax. Hence, I am trying to figure out how much you are being charged for all these add-ons in order to tell whether you are getting a good deal. The only price I see is $100 for window tinting from dealer A.
Am I missing something here? BTW, did you try asking any of the dealers to reduce their doc fees?
I am sure Brian will provide his input soon.
#31203 of 32216 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EXL 4 cylinder [bluemkn57cars]
Sep 18, 2013 (8:38 am)
I apologize. My head is starting to ache over this damn car which I am sure is what they want!!! My base guaranteed price through USAA is supposed to be $25,300 on this car with destination and regional fee included (USAA price does not include dealer fees or options added) So, I guess that means that the options are costing me $572.82 total. The tinted windows for $100 were negotiated but will be in addition to the option price I just mentioned.
They will not negotiate dealers fees in Florida other than just working on the price. I have found that with 8 dealerships. Here is the response from this dealer on our deal too for some side info:
"Invoice on the car before any accessories is $26,650.10
Your purchase price WITH accessories is $25,872.82
Hold back on the car is $989.45 so in essence your are paying $212.17 above true dealer cost before any accessories which is less then 1%. We are in business to make a profit even if it's a small one"
#31204 of 32216 Re: 2013 Honda accord LX, TX [hhhh12]
Sep 18, 2013 (8:58 am)
I bought one about a month ago, around 22,300 OTD, from Russel and Smith in Houston
#31205 of 32216 Re: 2014 Honda Accord EXL 4 cylinder [moesobo]
Sep 18, 2013 (11:00 am)
Did the dealer with the best offer list the individual prices of all the add-ons?
The MSRP for some of these options on Honda's website (without installation cost) is as follows:
1. Door Edge Guards ($95)
2. Mud Guards/ Splash Guards ($104)
3. Body Side Molding ($225)
4. Wheel Locks ($56)
5. Trunk Tray ($139)
6. Standard Mats (do you mean all season floor mats?)
7. Pin-Striping (no price listed but I hear it is an inexpensive option)
8. Tint for $100 extra
Total without tint = $619 (assuming MSRP and no installation charges). You could try and negotiate a better deal for the dealer add-ons, but I would like other forum contributors who have more experience to chime in and offer their feedback.
The USAA sales price is good deal since it is $1350 below invoice, before the atrocious $898 doc fees. Try and see if the dealer would lower the sales price of the car and/or throw in some accessories for free to counter those doc fees.
#31206 of 32216 2013 Honda Accord EX-L lease question
Sep 18, 2013 (9:55 am)
would appreciate any thoughts/comments on the following:
2013 Honda Accord EX-L, no NAV. I lost the notes I took, but it's $355 a month, all fees, taxes, etc are in the lease. I only pay the first month payment of 355 at signing. Thoughts?