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Honda Accord, Coupe, Sedan
#29458 of 32180 Re: This is why I chose the 2013 camry le over the 2013 accord lx [car_buyer_2013]
May 03, 2013 (4:27 am)
May be you are right and I wish I felt the same too.
I have been a Honda fan all my life(Honda Accord exl was my most recent car and had the three generation models before) and hated the Toyotas but the 2013 Honda accord's CVT is not Honda's DNA. Simulating the CVT to reflect a traditional Honda transmission was close but having had too many Hondas in the past, I am so used to the Honda Accord and I personally did not get the same opinion for the first time with this 2013 CVT. The sound of the engine is very much not like the traditional Honda.
By the way, the comparison was between the camry le and the accord lx and the upscale reference was between these similarly priced car models and the dash is the same even in higher end models of these cars. The cockpit is different in the higher end models of these two cars and the Accord wins there(similar to why I liked my exl) with the perforated leather and the looks without the ugly stripe like in the camry.
A true Honda fan would NEVER let a wonderful Honda engine languish behind any kind of automatic transmission.
I have been driving Hondas for the last 20 years, I have given automatics a try, but they are just bleh, compared to the same vehicle with a manual transmission and a clutch.
That is where Honda's soul has always been, in connecting the driver to the vehicle, so that they are one.
I test drove the 2013 Accord EX 6 spd manual, and I can tell you, the soul is still there, hidden under all that pseudo luxury. Rev it up to the redline before shifts, and the car just wakes up. It is a beast! Downshift before entering the curve, and then punch it as you exit the apex, the weight shift causes the car just hug the radius, as if it were on rails.
You simply can not do any of that with an automatic, and that is where Honda lost its soul. They sold out. Used to be that the most powerful Honda in the line up could only be had with a manual, but, good luck finding Accord EX V6 Sedan with a stick. The only way to get it is in the coupe, or as Acura TL Type S.
Sad, sad, sad.
P.S. A few years ago, Car and Driver folks transplanted a manual transmission out of Acura TL into Honda Oddyssey minivan. They have created a beast of a minivan. And as much as people hate driving minivans, they had people lining up to take a turn in a manually shifted Oddyssey. Even if the most mundane/sedate of the Honda's, a mini-van can be fun to drive with stick, think what other vehicles would be like. Wake up Honda! There are people who actually like driving, and not being drones.
#29459 of 32180 Re: This is why I chose the 2013 camry le over the 2013 accord lx [blueiedgod]
May 03, 2013 (4:44 am)
I applaud your passion, and I have driven many manuals in my day, but I am never buying a manual transmission car again. If Honda or any other car maker limited themselves to manuals, they would have a very small market indeed in the United States. And a manual minivan! Three kids in the back, you don't have enough hands as it is! THE HORROR!!!
#29460 of 32180 Re: This is why I chose the 2013 camry le over the 2013 accord lx [car_buyer_2013]
May 03, 2013 (7:49 am)
car buyer 2013, you forgot to mention one other difference between the Camry and the Accord.
The Accord aced the new SmallOverlap Front Test. This type of crash contributes to more deaths and injuries than the other type of frontal crash also tested (Moderate Overlap). Accord got a "Good". Camry didn't get a "Good", an "Acceptable" or a "Marginal". It got a "Poor". That's why the Accord is a Top Safety Pick Plus. The Camry is grandfathered under the old rules for 2013 so it keeps it Top Safety Pick designation but loses it next year. So enjoy your new Camry but please drive safe, or just admire it in your driveway.
#29461 of 32180 Re: 2013 honda accorda ex-l w/nav in new jersey [brian125]
May 03, 2013 (8:07 am)
good reply... must have been joking with us...must...
#29462 of 32180 Re: Best price for 2013 Honda Accord EXL w Navi (DE, PA, DC, MD, VA) [gmanusmc]
May 04, 2013 (3:21 am)
I have contacted them through their Internet dept. They offered $26,723, but I need to know if that is OTD (which I doubt) and what additional charges are included (e.g. tax, processing fee, etc.).
#29463 of 32180 Re: Best price for 2013 Honda Accord EXL w Navi (DE, PA, DC, MD, VA) [car_buyer_2013]
May 04, 2013 (3:27 am)
Thank you for the advice. I didn't even know about http://dealerrater.com/ and certainly will plug in some requests there.
I hear you about Dover - Price Honda's bottom line on this car is 28,630. Compare that to the one place I did get a quote on (Pohanka Honda of Fredericksburg) which was $26,723. Makes me wonder how much this car actually costs the dealer, because I know they need to make some sort of profit. I am still waiting to hear back from Pohanka in Salsbury.
And yes, "stick to the price and be firm"
#29464 of 32180 Finaly I closed the deal for EXL CVT 4cyl
May 04, 2013 (5:41 am)
Champagne EXL CVT 4cyl (no navi) + Remote Start Option
+379 processing fee
+783.14 VA title tax
+51.45 business license tax
+10 online DMV fee
+50.75 Micensee and title fee
-500 honda financing
Financing they offered me 2.69 for 72 months in order to have my monthly payment under $400 (399).
I cold have get it for $500 less from Pohanka but this dealer gave me 7years 100,000 powertrain waranty included and he was who spent all the time with me (3 test drives) and is close to my house also. (Colonial Honda, Tom, very very good guy). Also I did not discuss with Pohanka the financing.
Mechanicville Honda was willing to match the deal but I am not sure about their willing to buy down the rate for 72 months to 2.69 with Honda Financial.
Be ready to walk out the dealership......thats what I did when they were fighting about the APR and could not give anything below 3.49 for 72 months ..... in 2 seconds they gave me 2.69%
Thank you all for posting, I learned a lot from you and I think I was able to close a good deal (anyhow it was better than probably I would have done without this forum). Thanks brian125 and others.
#29465 of 32180 Re: Best price for 2013 Honda Accord EXL w Navi (DE, PA, DC, MD, VA) [gr8fl]
May 04, 2013 (8:07 am)
Pohanka Honda of Fredericksburg was very aggressive in price matching and the internet manager was prompt in responding and will tell you if he cannot go lower. To make your search quicker, you can forget about PA and DE dealers totally as they cant come close plus you have to deal with "Bring us the quote and we will price match" and when you bring the quote in an email, they will ask for a buyers order or show some kind of policy that they will not price match if the quote is in an email. Not worth the hassle. However, if they are willing to price match, its good for you. Stick to the MD/VA and you will find a super good deal + end of month + 6pm or closing time. Even the NJ dealerships could not compete but were decent. In NY the advantage is less processing fee compared to MD. One of the PA dealerships told me that in MD they are allowed to give huge discounts for some reason whereas the PA dealerships are not.
On top of the high prices at the Dover showroom, my personal experience dealing with them was the crappiest compared to the many dealers in these 5 states. I am never visiting that place again.
For financing, check out the <1% Penfed Credit Union rate or the 1.9% DCU (72 months option at 2.49%). If you cant get the Honda financing for the rate you want, these alternatives will help you with negotiating or receiving cash back instead of having to select the Honda low rate. Compare the difference in interest based on how long you think you are going to keep the car to be able to decide. Remember to create a separate email address as the dealerships will keep sending automated followups, salesman followups, funny advertisements making us think we are idiots, huge inventory sale, free life time engine warranty, some genuine lifetime oil changes related emails etc but will not match your price. You can forget about this new email address after your purchase is over with that one finalized dealership.
#29466 of 32180 Re: Best price for 2013 Honda Accord EXL w Navi (DE, PA, DC, MD, VA) [car_buyer_2013]
May 04, 2013 (11:18 am)
What are your thoughts on Price honda in D.E.. Did you call them .This dealership was matching Weymouth honda's price in M.a.. I dealt with John who was the sales mgr.and i thought for sure i was buying there but i nailed down a good price closer to my N.y home on Feb 28th.
I sent a forum member there to buy a exl v-6 accord and Price Honda did not want to honor a price..
#29467 of 32180 NY Accord Buyer could use some advice please...
May 05, 2013 (4:25 pm)
Hi everyone. Went in to a honda dealer here on long island today, primarily interested in the CRV, but was seriously impressed by the new accord. Wasn't ready to commit to buying anything today, but the salesperson (a nice person with a low pressure air) sat me down and said that when I was ready to come back and do a deal, he would be willing to sell me a car for as little as 100$ over invoice.
Reading over these threads, clearly cars are being sold below invoice.
Any folks out there in the tri-state area (NY, NJ, CT) purchase either an LX or a Sport Accord sedan with CVT? Would love to know what you actually paid OTD.
Really appreciate your help.