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Honda Accord, Coupe, Sedan
#28631 of 29571 Re: My Best carwoo price quotes (YMMV) [pegasus17]
Feb 23, 2013 (6:30 am)
I think many dealers who are outside of someone's immediate area don't bother to respond to these price quote requests from sites like Carwoo. I got about the same response level you did, but like you still got a good price.
Basically through Carwoo and other things like it customers are getting low prices on a hot product. Many dealers probably figure they can sell a 2013 Accord for a higher price than it would take to get a sale thru Carwoo. Nothing wrong with that.
When a Honda dealer decides to practically "give away" a car at below invoice, I think they are hoping to make it back and make some money on the trade, the extended warranty, and the accessories.
But some Honda dealers don't want to give away an all-new best-in-class award-winning car. They want to make some money on it. Fair enough!
But there are enough Accords around that those of us who are looking for a good price can find one. You don't need 8 good quotes. All you need is one good quote.
#28632 of 29571 Re: My Best carwoo price quotes (YMMV) [benjaminh]
Feb 23, 2013 (8:31 am)
I will say the opposite. I got my best quotes so far from dealers far away via Edmunds. The lowest is Anderson and then a dealer in PA that isn't close to me. My local dealer claims like every other dealer that they will match my lowest offer but I am still waiting for the carwoo qquotes to come in. We will see.
#28633 of 29571 Re: 2013 Honda Accord EX Purchase - Good Deal? [isellhondas]
Feb 23, 2013 (8:31 am)
to isellhondas, you are dishonest, I bought a 2013 honda accord v6 in november for 27999, i posted all this information on this forum but under forum name carcam123, forgot my password. Just look me up anyone in this forum from those dates. I know my price was good for the time, but better can be had now. Weymouth honda in mass. will give you internet pricing if you simply log in. I did use this official quote to e mail several dealerships in my pennsylvania area. None of them in my area wanted anything to do with me, Ray Price honda in the poconos was able to give me this price. the 27999 price was beforee ttl. but included destination fee. The list on this car was 31000. isellhondas guy is full of you know what. I was completely ready to drive to boston to get my car. Ray price was direct and forthcoming and truthful, so i only had to drive 100 miles.. to anyone buying honda. Just get official quote from weymouth just by logging in at there website. You will get excellent price right off bat. either buy from them, or use it to compare/ shop at nearer dealership. Brian125 is completely and positively correct, I dont know who he is, and i have never used forums before, but his advice is excellent. If you look back in this forum, you will see my post as carcam123. from my experience, below invoice is achievable. my price was almost 2800 below list. For all those buying new honda, go to Weymouth honda website, register, and you will have actual price in your hand. Use it. It will infuriate your local honda dealer, but it is a price that brian123 will be proud of. It is possible to go lower. Read all posts in this forum and you will learn alot. isellhondas is trying to say that 1000 below invoice is impossible. That is not true. I did not quite get below invoice in november, but I did get fantastic price. Read everything in this forum for last 5 months. Use this information and all advice brian123 is giving. I have no idea who he is, but he is correct. Do not deal in person with any dealership. Find the internet manager, use Weymouth quote as actually available and move on from there. Just register in their website and you will see excellent price on any honda model, Hell just buy it from them. isellhondas go shove it
#28634 of 29571 EX-L 4-cylinder price
Feb 23, 2013 (10:01 am)
$24,900 so far. I pay TTL
#28635 of 29571 Re: isellhondas a mole? [jimmytulsa]
Feb 23, 2013 (9:51 am)
Hey folks, no need to be rude to anyone.
Isell has a valuable perspective. Many here appreciate his point of view and insights, as well as his sense of humor and perspective.
Yes, of course, he tilts toward the salesperson's side of things, because that was his job for many years—selling Hondas.
But he points out many times, and accurately, that salespeople are people who need to make a living, just like we do, and who have feelings, just like we do.
Some salespeople are unethical. Some customers are unethical. So there's bad on both sides. There's also good on both sides.
Let's try here in our discussions to bring out the good.
Yes, we want low prices, and that's the point of this thread. But it's compatible with being friendly and ethical to your salesperson and letting them make at least a small (or even medium) profit somewhere in the deal....
Just my 2 cents.
#28636 of 29571 Re: 2013 Honda Accord EX Purchase - Good Deal? [caryc]
Feb 23, 2013 (11:15 am)
" None of them in my area wanted anything to do with me"
Gee, I wonder why?
I also am wondering why I would respond to a name caller with third grade writing skills?
#28637 of 29571 Re: isellhondas a mole? [benjaminh]
Feb 23, 2013 (11:20 am)
I appreciate the support!
I really have no "dog in the fight" since I retired two years ago. Even when I was working I never used these forums to promote myself.
I only try to temper some of the questionable advice that I read here.
I want low prices on the items I buy as much as anyone else. I also want to be treated in an above board manner by a friendly, down to earth sales staff.
When people focus ONLY on price they can find it a miserable procedure.
#28638 of 29571 Re: My Best carwoo price quotes (YMMV) [mvperez4jesus]
Feb 23, 2013 (11:36 am)
I am in the Philly area and I have been looking to buy a new car for some time. I was willing to wait for a while till the prices come down, and going by the prices posted in this forum recently I think people are getting way below invoice (I have seen 1000 - 1500 below invoice for the EX-L trims). I test drove an EX-L V6 and when the sales person asked if he wanted to talk numbers, I figured why not. I did my research, know the MSRP and invoice prices, what people were buying for here, the True Car estimates. I even have pre-approved financing from PenFed. His first quote was half way between invoice and MSRP. I told him, there's no point playing these games, and if you match my offer, I am ready to buy. I offered him 1000 below invoice (but was ready to buy slightly higher, rounding up the OTD price by a couple of hundred dollars). He comes back offering to sell at invoice price (there's the first wrong move, you just dropped your price by $1300 without any pressure). I stuck with my offer and walked out, he just missed a chance to do a quick sale.
I was wondering if we should all go as a group and all offer to buy same day if we could get a good deal without any shenanigans ? Seriously, they would sell 3-4 cars in a day, no prolonged process and everyone's time is saved. No carwoo or true car, just pass on part of the savings to the customer.
#28639 of 29571 Re: EXL-V6 sedan (no nav)
Feb 23, 2013 (11:45 am)
I also belong to penfed and looked up their car buying service for your deal:
estimated member price 27492 (excludes doc fees and dmv fees)
weymouth price 27339 (same exclusions)
So, what did you offer and what did he come back with? FWIW, I find invoice prices useless since they do not reflect true dealer cost...
#28640 of 29571 Re: EXL-V6 sedan (no nav) [pegasus17]
Feb 23, 2013 (12:04 pm)
MSRP: 30,860. Invoice: 28,300. The first price he quoted was $29,600 (I literally did a face-palm when I saw that quote, may be I was being too naive and optimistic about dealers not playing games for a quick sale). I told him I did my research, there is public information about what people are paying and that this price was way too high. He asked me for my offer.
My offer was $27,300 (but I was ready to go up by another $ 200 if he could find my color choice and do the deal quickly). The penfed member price in my area is $28,200. The doc fees in this area is usually around $130. Is your member price in Ohio ? I would have made the purchase if someone offered me that price here in the Philly area with the color I wanted.