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Honda Accord, Coupe, Sedan
#28042 of 29555 Re: Two weeks after paying $1100 below invoice (long!) [michaelvox]
by jammike
Jan 13, 2013 (6:45 pm)
Thanks for all the information and the effort to post so many details on the Forum. Your dedication is simply applaud worthy.
#28043 of 29555 2013 CVT Special Auto. Transmission Fluid
by coches1
Jan 13, 2013 (8:05 pm)
The Honda CVT Auto Transmissions needs Special hydraulic fluid
only provided by the Honda Dealer. According to a Honda Salesperson
the system can only be opened by the dealer.
If this is true it is not a deal breaker but is important
to know regarding maintenance and emergency repairs.
thanks
#28044 of 29555 29.00$ Electronic Registration Fee LOL
by coches1
Jan 13, 2013 (10:58 pm)
29.00$ Electronic Registration Fee LOL
I asked a dealer about this fee when he presented it
in his offer. He said it expedites the delivery
of your registration. When I asked him if it
was necessary to have this added service,
he said no and would remove it.
Anyone in the forum had a situation with this fee??
CA DMV has an awesome new car fee calculator that
includes everything.
#28045 of 29555 Re: Two weeks after paying $1100 below invoice (long!) [michaelvox]
by btan44
Jan 14, 2013 (2:10 am)
Thanks for all your helpful information, i live in the same area as you and plan to buy the exact same car. My first stop with be Morgan Hill Honda and hope to get a great deal as you have.
#28046 of 29555 Re: Two weeks after paying $1100 below invoice (long!) [michaelvox]
by liaison
Jan 14, 2013 (7:45 am)
Thank you for the detailed post(s). I don't feel so bad now about our 4.75% sales tax. My local dealer charges $499 for doc fees and on top of that we pay the sales tax on doc fees. One thing I have noticed is that all of the Honda dealers in my area had great sales in Dec. Inventory is very low and few EX-L sedans are on their lots. I don't know if it was the season or the 2013 Accord that accounted for high sales. Like you, I drive a V6 (07) and love the extra power. Trying to decide if I would be happy with the 4 cylinder.
#28047 of 29555 Re: Two weeks after paying $1100 below invoice (long!) [michaelvox]
by rayainsw
Jan 14, 2013 (9:46 am)
I really appreciate the time it took to detail your process!
Thanks,
- Ray
Rarely a man of few words ...
#28048 of 29555 Internet Sales Managers and another buying option
by solo67
Jan 14, 2013 (11:09 am)
When I began my car search, the first dealership I went to for a test drive actually had a ficticious Internet Sales Manager. When I'd call the dealership, the person was never available or was on vacation. But, he always seemed to answer emails promptly. When I went in for the test drive appointment, I was told he was on vacation. After being helped by someone else, I asked where the guy's desk was ( I noticed he didn't appear in the staff photos on the wall) and the salesman was speechless. Apparently, whomever sees an incoming email for the Internet Sales Manager becomes that guy for a few minutes.
My last car was purchased through a local independent auto broker and the price is always invoice or invoice minus any manufacturer deals going on at the moment. The broker finds the car that meets my specs and has it trucked by the selling dealership (usually a mega-dealer) to the broker's location where we go to take delivery. Clearly the transportation fee and broker fee (an undisclosed amount) mean that the broker is getting the car for a few hundred below the invoice. The last time around, after a long search and negotiation, the broker price came in almost the same as the best price I could get with a dealership. The deciding factor was: buying a Honda from a dealership around here (Raleigh, NC) requires you to sign a contract (even for a cash deal) that includes clauses where you give up your right to sue the manufacturer or participate in a class action lawsuit against them. You avoid that with a broker. As someone who got a major engine repair paid for through a class action lawsuit, I appreciate the advantage of not signing that away.
#28049 of 29555 Re: looking for 2013 manual transmission accord sedan [hankjoy]
by spencer123
Jan 14, 2013 (11:45 am)
Hankjoy,
Respectfully ignore brian125's implication that you can't get a good deal ("You want that car you will have to over pay").
I've done A LOT of research on this as I was dead set on purchasing a new manual. I live in Houston, and there are countless cvts on every lot, but very, very few manuals. I wanted the EX, and at one point there were only two or three in the entire state of Texas!
My advice is to email each dealership in california that has the manual in stock and tell them you're looking to purchase the car in a week or whatever, you've been researching for the past however long, and you're just looking for the best deal. Ask for the best OUT THE DOOR they can give. (Just search online for negotiating with dealerships and you'll find some good advice.) But definitely negotiate the price online, not in person. You won't get anywhere in person.
There was only one EX in the dark gray in Houston and I couldn't negotiate a good price on it, so I decided to order it from the manufacturer for total drive out of $25,150, the only dealer add-on being window tint. If they had it in stock and I financed with the dealership in december I could've gotten 24,500 OTD with the $500 Honda bucks. 25k OTD is almost right on invoice.
Well the car was taking forever to arrive, I was getting antsy, and a Dallas dealership got the car, so I negotiated with them and actually got a better deal, 25,200 but with more accessories. Here's the breakdown from Lute Riley Honda in Dallas:
2013 Honda Accord EX
TRUE Price: $22,883.98
Dealer adds: $500.00
- cargo tray
- mud flaps
- window tint
- door edge guards
- pin stripes
- wheel locks
Subtotal: $23,383.98 plus Tax,Title & License.
So 25.2 OTD vs MSRP of 24,605 + 790 dest + 665 dealer adds msrp = 26,060 + ~2,000 TTL = 28k+. So no way in .... do you have to pay msrp. Not even close.
I ended up driving four hours to Dallas to pick it up, but that's the price I paid for the manual, and it was definitely worth it!
As a side note, I'd definitely recommend the EX. After driving it for a bit I'm sold on the smart entry, push-button start, rear-view cam, and the sunroof is just a nice touch even though I rarely use it. The ONLY thing I don't like (besides the fact it doesn't have tons of power, although it's sufficient) is that it doesn't have a leather steering wheel. That's it. Bit nitpicky.
Good luck man. Let me know if you have any questions.
#28050 of 29555 2013 Honda Accord EX Sedan Manual Price
by spencer123
Jan 14, 2013 (11:50 am)
Dealership: Lute Riley Honda - Dallas
Price paid:
2013 Honda Accord EX Manual Sedan
TRUE Price: $22,883.98
Dealer adds: $500.00
- cargo tray
- mud flaps
- window tint
- door edge guards
- pin stripes
- wheel locks
Subtotal: $23,383.98 plus Tax,Title & License
TTL came out to be $1,816, so total DRIVE OUT was $25,200 on the button. If I ordered from the manufacturer I'd also negotiated 25k OTD with zero dealer add ons, so this was a comparable deal.
Est. MSRP OTD (with $665 msrp dealer add ons): $28,040
Negotiated OTD: $25,200
#28051 of 29555 Re: what's the best rate honda is offering [steplaland]
by spencer123
Jan 14, 2013 (11:54 am)
Yep I did exactly what Christruong suggested. My credit was in your range (760-770), and I got 1.99 from the credit union. I negotiated with the dealership and the best they could do was 1.94 since I hadn't financed anything before. But it's sure a heck of a lot better than 4.9!