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Re: Anyone getting or beating invoice? [szer]
by jb_turner
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Nov 26, 2008 (6:03 pm)
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Replying to: szer (Nov 25, 2008 1:25 pm)
"I don't agree with your "SAME" OTD statement. OTD contains TAX in which each of us pays a different % based on the state where we lived in. How can the OTD of one state, for eg Oregon with 0% tax be compared with Indiana with 7% tax be compared? Obviously the IN resident will have to pay a higher OTD due to the tax. Your logic is flawed however, it might be better if poster provides a breakdown of his pricing and provide a total, but providing only the OTD wouldn't work in this multi-states forum"
If you are shopping for other people I can understand.
If you are shopping for yourself (like the the poster was) the tax rate is consistant so an OTD would matter... We are using a Worldwide forum so we have various opinions however I guarantee that we ALL pay an OTD price.
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- #22398 of 24563
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Re: Anyone getting or beating invoice? [szer]
by jb_turner
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Nov 26, 2008 (6:09 pm)
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Replying to: szer (Nov 25, 2008 1:25 pm)
"I don't agree with your "SAME" OTD statement. OTD contains TAX in which each of us pays a different % based on the state where we lived in. How can the OTD of one state, for eg Oregon with 0% tax be compared with Indiana with 7% tax be compared? Obviously the IN resident will have to pay a higher OTD due to the tax. Your logic is flawed however, it might be better if poster provides a breakdown of his pricing and provide a total, but providing only the OTD wouldn't work in this multi-states forum"
If you are shopping for other people I can understand.
If you are shopping for yourself (like the the poster was) the tax rate is consistant so an OTD would matter.
A dealer can in fact have a car with a lower invoice price however due to junk fees a higher OTD price than other dealers.
We are using a Worldwide forum so we have various opinions however I guarantee that we ALL pay an OTD price.
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- #22399 of 24563
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Re: Need Help PLS!! [mplshondadlr]
by mikefm58
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Nov 26, 2008 (6:21 pm)
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Replying to: mplshondadlr (Nov 26, 2008 2:37 pm)
We do however, have to charge you for excess wear - $300.00 should cover it.'
Good point. If my memory is correct, I believe there is a clause in the fine print of most contracts that would allow the dealer to do that. That's why folks always recommend to have your own financing lined up BEFORE going to buy the car.
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Re: Need Help PLS!! [mplshondadlr]
by kyfdx HOST
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Nov 27, 2008 (5:08 am)
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Replying to: mplshondadlr (Nov 26, 2008 2:37 pm)
'I understand. I'm sorry you feel that way. We will take the car back. We do however, have to charge you for excess wear - $300.00 should cover it.'
$0.15/mi. is $45
Good luck collecting...
This is the dealer's risk in doing spot deliveries... Can they charge for use of the car? Yes... Can they collect? Doubtful.
When the deal changes, it's best to walk away.. Once that number starts moving up, you are asking for it.
regards,
kyfdx
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Any delas on ThanksGiving for Accord
by rvs2000
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Nov 27, 2008 (12:03 pm)
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is there any accord deals on thanksgiving weekend ? if so, pl send me the dealer and price info. thanks
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Re: Anyone getting or beating invoice? [vaterp]
by infohound
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Nov 29, 2008 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: vaterp (Nov 19, 2008 2:06 pm)
Bought Car in Central VA.
Got 500 below invoice on 2009 4dr EXL V6 with/nav
Clean deal no trade ... beware of high doc fees ... max 299 (this is pure profit for them as well)
Start lower and close for 500 less if possible.
They are still making 4-500 on the deal.
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Re: Anyone getting or beating invoice? [infohound]
by jnacab
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Nov 29, 2008 (1:30 pm)
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Replying to: infohound (Nov 29, 2008 8:18 am)
Just curious, did the invoice include destination charge? This would mean an invoice of $28536 for the trim level you stated. Or did you get it for 500 below "true" invoice of $27866? This means you would have closed at $27366??? Seems kind of low for that trim level at an MSRP of $31425 (including destination). Also, was this a completely new vehicle or a never titled dealership demonstrator?
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Re: Anyone getting or beating invoice? [jnacab]
by szer
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Nov 29, 2008 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: jnacab (Nov 29, 2008 1:30 pm)
Obviously it is Invoice + destination fee(670) - 500. The destination fee is a legit charge made by the manufacturer, Honda. There's no way that you will not pay it
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Re: Anyone getting or beating invoice? [infohound]
by jb_turner
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Nov 29, 2008 (2:52 pm)
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Replying to: infohound (Nov 29, 2008 8:18 am)
Below invoice does not mean anything... what matters is the OTD price. In VA 29,100 OTD for a V6 with Navi can be had. If you paid less OTD you did well indeed.
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- #22406 of 24563
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Re: Anyone getting or beating invoice? [szer]
by jnacab
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Nov 29, 2008 (6:33 pm)
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Replying to: szer (Nov 29, 2008 1:53 pm)
I agree with you, however some dealerships count on you not knowing this and base their invoice with this charge. So, in effect, they can show you "invoice" and quote you a "below invoice" offer and still make more off the deal (if you're not aware of this). Bottom line: All negotiating around invoice should be done without consideration of destination charge. After you've negotiated your best deal (based on dealer invoice), then add in destination charge and TTL...
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