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Re: Need Help PLS!! [szer] by parviz
Nov 26, 2008 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: szer (Nov 26, 2008 8:43 am)

In this economic condition, why even bother with contacting a lawyer (time and expense involved), I would just return the car, similar deals can be had in other dealerships, or just like kyfdx mentioned just adjust the price of the car to offset the increase in the APR.
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Re: Need Help PLS!! [parviz] by mplshondadlr
Nov 26, 2008 (11:24 am)
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Replying to: parviz (Nov 26, 2008 10:46 am)

I agree that returning the car may solve the problem. However, once Honda Finance qualifies someone at "Preferred" rather then "Super Preferred" they by law, have to provide the same approval to any different Honda Dealer - there is just no way of getting around it.
 
So if you contine to shop Honda's you'll get the same rate at every dealer.
 
Jeremy
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Re: Need Help PLS!! [mplshondadlr] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 26, 2008 (12:33 pm)
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Replying to: mplshondadlr (Nov 26, 2008 11:24 am)

So what?
 
The point of agreeing to return the car, is to get the dealer to live up to their promise.
 
If you end up paying more somewhere else.. that's too bad.. but, I'd be damned if I would do it at that dealer.
 
Because.. until you push, you'll never know if they are blowing smoke, and just trying to pull another $500-$800 profit out of the deal.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Need Help PLS!! [kyfdx] by mplshondadlr
Nov 26, 2008 (1:04 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Nov 26, 2008 12:33 pm)

Actually, the dealer makes just a $100.00 "flat" on all subvented rates and they can not mark the rate up to make a profit - if you qualify at 3.9% you get 3.9% no questions asked. Honda will reject and return all contacts that have a dealer markup on advertised rates or special rates. So in this case (I'm assuming on the limited information I have), the dealer is not trying to make more money. They simply were not able to secure the loan at the top tier.
 
I agree there are dealers out there who try to pull a fast one one people. In this case it dosen't stike me as so.
 
To overcome any doubt I would suggest that the person in question ask the F&I guy to see the actual approval from Honda. That should end all doubt.
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Re: Need Help PLS!! [mplshondadlr] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 26, 2008 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: mplshondadlr (Nov 26, 2008 1:04 pm)

But... that isn't going to get him the price he agreed to...
 
I still vote for: "I'm bringing the car back if you don't sell it to me for the payment and term we agreed upon."
 
So... they get a car back with 300 miles on it, or they eat $500 and he gets the deal they promised... I'm betting they eat it.
 
Your way? He is definitely going to be out more money.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Need Help PLS!! [kyfdx] by mplshondadlr
Nov 26, 2008 (2:37 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Nov 26, 2008 1:17 pm)

Ohh - did they change the price on him?
 
I'm sure they'll eat the difference if the guy makes a big enough stink about it. Unless the guy bought the car well into the holdback. Then they'll probably just take the car back if the guy try to "bully" them in to accepting his terms.
 
It will probably go something like this, 'The price is the price, we haven't changed that. While we figured we could get you approved at 3.9% we couldn't. Honda appoved you at 4.9%, here is the approval.
 
(customer)'I'm sorry to hear that. How about this, keep the payment the same with the new rate or take the car back'
 
'I'm sorry but the payment went up with the new approval and I cant make the payment the same'
 
'Well then you can have your car back!'
 
'I understand. I'm sorry you feel that way. We will take the car back. We do however, have to charge you for excess wear - $300.00 should cover it.'
 
'No way! I'm not paying that, you changed the terms we agreed to.'
 
'No sir, we din't change anything. The car is still $22222.00 and you can still buy it at that price. But, bottom line is the lender didn't approve the contact as written. Now about that $300.00, do you want us to deduct that from your deposit?'
 
I will bet the conversation goes pretty close to that. Sad but true
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Re: Anyone getting or beating invoice? [szer] by jb_turner
Nov 26, 2008 (6:03 pm)
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Replying to: szer (Nov 25, 2008 1:25 pm)

"I don't agree with your "SAME" OTD statement. OTD contains TAX in which each of us pays a different % based on the state where we lived in. How can the OTD of one state, for eg Oregon with 0% tax be compared with Indiana with 7% tax be compared? Obviously the IN resident will have to pay a higher OTD due to the tax. Your logic is flawed however, it might be better if poster provides a breakdown of his pricing and provide a total, but providing only the OTD wouldn't work in this multi-states forum"
 
If you are shopping for other people I can understand.
If you are shopping for yourself (like the the poster was) the tax rate is consistant so an OTD would matter... We are using a Worldwide forum so we have various opinions however I guarantee that we ALL pay an OTD price.
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Re: Anyone getting or beating invoice? [szer] by jb_turner
Nov 26, 2008 (6:09 pm)
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Replying to: szer (Nov 25, 2008 1:25 pm)

"I don't agree with your "SAME" OTD statement. OTD contains TAX in which each of us pays a different % based on the state where we lived in. How can the OTD of one state, for eg Oregon with 0% tax be compared with Indiana with 7% tax be compared? Obviously the IN resident will have to pay a higher OTD due to the tax. Your logic is flawed however, it might be better if poster provides a breakdown of his pricing and provide a total, but providing only the OTD wouldn't work in this multi-states forum"
 
If you are shopping for other people I can understand.
If you are shopping for yourself (like the the poster was) the tax rate is consistant so an OTD would matter.
A dealer can in fact have a car with a lower invoice price however due to junk fees a higher OTD price than other dealers.
 
We are using a Worldwide forum so we have various opinions however I guarantee that we ALL pay an OTD price.
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Re: Need Help PLS!! [mplshondadlr] by mikefm58
Nov 26, 2008 (6:21 pm)
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Replying to: mplshondadlr (Nov 26, 2008 2:37 pm)

We do however, have to charge you for excess wear - $300.00 should cover it.'

 
Good point. If my memory is correct, I believe there is a clause in the fine print of most contracts that would allow the dealer to do that. That's why folks always recommend to have your own financing lined up BEFORE going to buy the car.
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Re: Need Help PLS!! [mplshondadlr] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 27, 2008 (5:08 am)
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Replying to: mplshondadlr (Nov 26, 2008 2:37 pm)

'I understand. I'm sorry you feel that way. We will take the car back. We do however, have to charge you for excess wear - $300.00 should cover it.'

 
$0.15/mi. is $45
 
Good luck collecting...
 
This is the dealer's risk in doing spot deliveries... Can they charge for use of the car? Yes... Can they collect? Doubtful.
 
When the deal changes, it's best to walk away.. Once that number starts moving up, you are asking for it.
 
regards,
kyfdx

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