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Honda Accord, Coupe, Sedan
#17903 of 29562 help!! New Car VIN
Oct 20, 2007 (11:10 pm)
I tried to buy a 2007 EXL accord V6. my favor color is Black/Ivory. I only found one black/Ivory and a couple of Black/black in my city. However, the VIN in the only black/ivory looks too strange to me.
According to Honda Automotive VIN codes in Wikipedia, the last six digits or seven digits are the production sequence number. So this Black/Ivory is the 1,3xxth car Honda made in US in 2007.
if you compare the VIN in other sample type car, you will know the black/ivory must be very old. for example, one Black/black, which just sitting beside the black/ivory, has 1HGCM66517A0722XX, that means the black /black is the 72,2XXth car Honda made for 2007 Exl v6 model.
So the black/ivory must be built in Sep 2006 because the sequence number is so small. Also the dealer told me that this car is brand new and only has about 100 miles. I did ask how long this car is sitting here and dealer told me it may be five or six months.
My concerns is why the black/ ivory has such small Sequency number. why has this car not be sold for one year? why it stay in the dealership for one year?
Black/Ivory is my favor color but the car is too old. Black / black is my second favor color but the car is much newer. I just wondering which car I should choose?
Any suggestion will be appreciated. Thanks.
 Production sequence number
Canadian models share same VIN as U.S. except that their sequence numbers start at 800000. It is also important to note that, in the U.S., positions 13-17 must be a number, whereas position 12 may be either a letter or a number
#17904 of 29562 Re: Horrible buying experience... Woodland Hills Honda SoCal [jb_turner]
Oct 21, 2007 (12:52 am)
I will agree that the offer I took was a little on the high side, expecially the dealer procesing fee, however, I was up against renting a vehicle otherwise. (My Ram is still in the shop, undrivable, over two weeks later, waiting on a part ) The flip side was this was the best offer I had got after a week of haggling. Most would refuse to do the deal for anything less than $1000 over invoice, citing a lack of dealer incentives. I mentioned the $751.80 holdback, regardless. I gave each dealership and offer of $25,300 OTD. A couple dealerships hung up the phone on me at that point, a few tried to haggle me up to $25,900 or so OTD, and I would not budge.
The add ons were the OEM wheel locks and the OEM mudflaps. According to the Honda website, the MSRP of the mudflaps is $99 and the MSRP of the wheel locks is $49. My guess is the dealership paid somewhere in the $80-$100 range for the materials and the labor was done by a mechanic on salary.
Remember, I did this deal two weeks ago. I'm sure I could have got that price down another $250-300 today, but I would have been renting a car for two plus weeks. Factor that in and everything is a wash. I'm happy, plus the 28.25 MPG the second tank got has been paying dividends too.
#17905 of 29562 Re: help!! New Car VIN [dengjun]
Oct 21, 2007 (7:23 am)
I think your concerns are misplaced (so what if nobody's bought it) but since it bothers you, don't buy the black/ivory.
Of course, you could look at this another way - it's still there because it was destined for you!
#17906 of 29562 Re: Philadelphia Honda Dealers [maxblacks]
Oct 21, 2007 (8:39 am)
Try Sussman Honda in Willow Grove, PA. On 10/19/07 bought a white 2008 Accord EX-L MSRP of $26,495 for $24,000 plus tax and tags. Worked for it but got it. Once the deal was made, all went very smoothly. Clearly a step above the Camry XLE. My wife loves the car! Good Luck!!
#17907 of 29562 Re: help!! New Car VIN [dengjun]
by kyfdx HOST
Oct 21, 2007 (9:42 am)
Have you been to the dealer? The month/year of manufacture are on a plate on the driver's door jamb. That way, you won't have to calculate it.
If you can't get to the dealer, ask the salesperson to call you on his cell phone, while looking at the plate, and tell you what it states.
#17908 of 29562 Re: Philadelphia Honda Dealers [caddyman]
Oct 21, 2007 (12:21 pm)
Wow. Isn't $24k under invoice for an EX-L?
#17909 of 29562 Re: Philadelphia Honda Dealers [maxblacks]
Oct 21, 2007 (1:23 pm)
I live in NC and just bought an '08 EX Accord Sedan on 10/20 for $24,200 "Out the door". The price included wheel locks, trunk tray, pinstripe, rear spoiler and mud guards. Good luck!
#17910 of 29562 Re: help!! New Car VIN [kyfdx]
Oct 21, 2007 (2:56 pm)
Thank you. I think I will check the Month/year of manufacture on the plate on the driver' door Jamb.
I think it may do not make senses to pay same money on one car sitting there for one year. Thanks.
#17911 of 29562 Re: help!! New Car VIN [dengjun]
Oct 21, 2007 (3:21 pm)
So pay somewhat less if it is really that old. The warranty doesn't start until you buy the car. The main disadvantage is that the car has had extra months of sun exposure on the paint and interior. The other is that it will probably be just as hard for you to resell used as it is for the dealer to sell new. You will probably have to forget about a private party resale and will have to turn it in at trade-in prices when you are ready to get rid of it.
#17912 of 29562 Re: help!! New Car VIN [jaxs1]
Oct 21, 2007 (4:51 pm)
thank you for the suggestions. The other strange thing is that the origional dealer on the paper is not my local dealer, is a dealer in FL, called Tampa Honda Land.
I am just confusing why this car is transferred from a dealer in FL to Minnesota, where I live? Can not be sold in FL so that it is shipped to Minneapolis?
I will ask dealer next monday.